Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

I might not want gajin rename Rafale C F3-R to F4.1 in the next year because Rafale F4.1it’s separate vehicle

In the future, gajin add Rafale early variants before F3-R standard after Mirage 4000. and Mirage F1CT or Mirage 2000D RMV

Btw for anyone curious, corner speed for RAF ingame is 375 kts!

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Is that then also the optimal rate speed?

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Would be great to be able to choose

Ok Gaijin let’s think this through:

Did the Rafale need 2 more MICAs? No.

Did the players want 2 more MICAs? Some, but the majority did not.

Is 8 MICAs historical? No, unless this Rafale is also missing large portions of it’s electronics and sensors, as well as being unable to fire these missiles it is not historical.

So where do you see justification for this addition?

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balance.
I dont say its the right way to do it, but we know Gaijin is capable of breaking a little of realism for balancing purpose (though I agree they only do it when they feel like it, its not always).

also, people should stop trying to assert that the majority of players want this or that, when in fact they dont have a real clue.

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I second that

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I can count, on all platforms I’ve seen 31 people who support 6 missiles and 17 who support 8, that’s a majority.

Can we stop with the 6 vs 8 missiles debate, just take 6 if you are not happy honestly i don’t see the point, it has already been explained enough, 8 is accurate.

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Where did u see that? Were there polls or something about missiles count?

Based on bug reports and amount of “I have the same issue” alone we can see that vast majority wanted these extra pylons.

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that way too small of a sample to draw any meaningful conclusions.
only taking into account vocal minorities who tend to use forums more than most players.

I mean, thats 48 players opinions out of how many total players?

EDIT, and thats drifting offtopic anyway.

I am working with the data I have, the data I have points towards majority not wishing for this change.

Unless you have a larger dataset that can disprove it mine currently the best we have.

Well and I have seen atleast 20 people who support amraams on the inner wing pylon on the EFT and nobody objecting it.

But we aren’t getting it.

Or like the German EF not getting the Pirate Irst because it was not widely used (they tested it on a few tho) but the rafale gets both a hmd and 8 missiles,
which were never in operational use on the F3.

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well the data you have doesnt really mean anything much.

if thats the only data you have, ill repeat myself and say that you should refrain from making claims about the majority of players

People clicking I have the same issue are likely the same people, they also may not understand what the bug report is about or just blindly click it without reading it. So they are not suitable for inclusion.

I am going on verbal statements only

SBU 54 works just fine for me

That is exactly what it is! Maintain that and you’ll rate the fastest you can while staying consistent.

You are not getting PIRATE

There are F3Rs that have this pylon

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That were in operational service?

With France no but it can use the pylons