probably marketing lies =D
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Its crazy the amount of ETF player here that never touched a single french plane trying to make the Rafale worse
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80km is not marketing lies,… there is some tsets results proving those ranges.
come on…obvious sarcasm
1st degree team here.
You guys must be god favorites to have so much faith
I don’t understand why you believe Gaijin will do anything to improve the Mica?
Well… Most of them cant cope with insanely nerfed mica. Imagine if french had amraam level bvraam.
Imagine if AIM-120D was given with AIM-120A capabilties: what would you do?
180km+ vs 70km
You dont know? Figures stated by western militaries, MOD or manufacturer are nowadays labeled as marketing lies by gaijin. Not everyone lies like russian weapon industry. Not realizing they are disconnected from governments unlike in russia where they lie to have plus points with tsar putin.
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I know about that, but your previous comment makes it as if gaijin is true.
Btw, i have no faith Gaijin will fix MICA, i mean not in the next 3 years (time for gaijin to finally add CCIP+radar on Etendard IVm,…)
No, i implied that if they fixed mica, france would have bvraam with kinematics on amraam level while being faster at short-mid range. And cuz your typical spamraamer cant cope with nerfed mica already, they would get slammed by correct mica HARD. Even though it wouldn’t be really better at range than amraam. It would be equal, probably slightly worse… Not half the effective range as it is now. Its like taking 7E2 vs ER.
Oh,… That’s what “Most of them” was for.
Sorry then.
And you know… Main nation using amraam is US and we cant have US mains getting beaten in bvr. Even if it means level playing field. They have to be atleast on top. Only matter of time gaijin introduces some insanity to US or 120C-5 so they can outrange typhoons. Its obvious AF how bad they are. If you fly against them in typhoon. Its like shooting ducks. They barely defend. They are used to micas and R77s with barely 25km effective range at altitude.
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Actually :
US/GER/UK/ITA/Benelux(in FRA, even if many didn’t wants it)/JAPAN(with/before AAM-4)/ISRAEL
Are all using AIM120’s
R-77 are still correctly implemented though,…
Yeah but exept Israel, who else gets rocketship like F-15E. Others are mainly F16s and they are far from it. Israel is usually with US on one side iirc. Then there is 15Jm and you can usually count them on one hand… In 10 battles total.
Then you have AV-8Bs and those can be seen at lower Bracket already spamming AIM-120’s
oh hello Direct
been a while !
thanks for the additional info
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I really think their strategy is purely commercial. They are creating frustration to then put a MICA NG under a new Rafale F4 at rank IX, with a nice Rafale A premium priced at 80USD =D
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