Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

“the IAF Rafale fighters use the Display and Sight Helmet System (DASH), a helmet-mounted display and sight (HMD /S)”

Those Rafale are F.3R standards

By this standard it could also get 8 aam

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Technically all reports of that kind are moved to suggestions now, no need to stress. I can dig for more sources.

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These websites didn’t work for the last two years and I don’t trust them now, either

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Yeah they’re unreliable, unfortunately as a console based player I can’t test it on the dev myself.

But really thats a more optimistic value than Fireballs test showing 16.7°/s. Regardless both indicate STR is too low, the negotiation is over by how much.

It can fly like a TVC sukhoi I think they’ll be fine

I would rather they fixed that and buffed the STR.

I dislike how it flies less like an aircraft and more like some sort of ABM.

so if it actually gets renamed to F.4, are we also going to get 8 AAM pylons ? And also SPECTRA. And what else would we get ?

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You could get us an IRST system

SPECTRA has mostly always been present. The most modern version of the SPECTRA came with the F3 standard with improvement of the DDM-NG (from DDM) MAW system. Only the OSF changed - with the addition of a new IRST sensor - that replaced the OSF-IT from the F3 standard - which had it’s IR sensor removed from the original OSF sensor from the F2 rafale.
Basically :

  • F2 (F2.2 to be precise I believe) : OSF
  • F3 : OSF-IT (improved TV channel, IR removed)
  • F4 : OSF-IRST (New IRST sensor, TV appears unchanged)

F4.1 improves things with a new HMD, more missiles and more armement in general (such as 1000kg bombs).

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Most likely nothing because there is 99% for it to not be renamed as HMDs are balancing tools. RMV shouldn’t have an HMD and yet it gets the scorpion. Same goes for 2000 5F that shouldn’t have an HMD normaly.

That is IPA7 and is a test aircraft that Germany use but is owned by the Eurofighter consortium

This is also a Rafale thread so stop

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As much as getting an F4 off the bat would be irritating, at least we’d get (hopefully) the heavy AASM.

Not entirely convinced it will be renamed, but at least there’s that which will come of it if it is.

8 MICAs as well

True. I care more about air to ground but more AAMs never hurts.

Lets remember to keep this thread on topic going forward.

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I don’t understand this point however. I agree that the power creep is strong, but considering that the added Eurofighter is Tranche 2 or above, mostly the F4 would be a decent equivalent in this game’s META (since most of the EW stuff is not modelled).
It does not mean it’s the last top tier we’ll get. There’s at least the F4.2 that could come.
We also need to keep in mind that the rafale is missing 4 armaments that will come in the futur to make it futur proof, just like the 2000-5F : MICA IR, MICA NG EM and IR, and Meteor. When these are added, the BR of the rafale is going to go up. Meanwhile, we will be able to add lower tier rafales without all the bell and whistles.
Honestly, armement (that will come later) aside, the main difference between all of the different Rafales will be QoL systems (HMD, IRST) that I would rather have now (because going from the 5F with only 6 missile no HMD would be more of a downgrade than anything else), than having to wait for one more year just to get to research an entirely new plane for an HMD

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I just don’t trust them to add the earlier stuff, or update an F4. At least if it gets introduced down the line, they can’t just forget it. It would, unfortunately, be pretty on par with their track record.

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THAT’S EXACTLY WHY!

That exact reason will make player to have the Toptier of a nation and being FORCED to grind on Lower Stuff,…

for that SPECIFIC Reason Gaijin should have been adding an early Standard now.

as such a F.2.2 would have been fairly enough,…

instead of this we got a F.3R // F.4.1 with Avionics 50 times better (IRL) than in-game counterparts, but weapons worse than anyone,…

What’s the point in Avionic suite being the best if we can’t use the third of it?

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welp that takes away any interest i had in actually researching the thing, great job guys