It can underperform in one area and overperform in others.
I can’t speak to the motivations or actions of other “Brit mains” (i have germany france and britain), but i have at least tried to keep an open mind and aide where possible, i also havent seen any rafale nerfs passed from any side really.
That said theres a series of assumptions being made on this side of the thread too.
So lets stop casting shade at eachother, and work to report positively where we can.
The reason barely anyone uses IRSTs is because of how poorly they perform, compared to what they should be able to do.
just wanted to ask because your comment was removed and i was afraid i made someone angry lmao
I managed a peak of 15.8 for Rafale with full fuel and 4 AAM of MICA weight. Rafale FM looked a lot more finished than Eurofighter though but who am I to judge.
I havent a clue what to do with the SEP value so i just set it to zero that could have skewed results but i assumed that if there was no specific excess power then the airframe was performing to the max?
And you are referring to exactly what here? Aircraft?
I ask out of curiosity and because in Sim it is easy to dominate in Flanker by using irst and brainplay.
Yes, but mostly talking about RB. I know it is useful in sim due to a lack of markers, but I do not know to what extent it was.
Wanker’s IRST has anywhere between 2-5 times lower range than it should, depending on the scenario.
And in other ways its overperforming at bs rate.
Safe to say overperforming aspects outshine the underperforming ones.
Top speed was nerfed following a report from Fireball, one of the most vocal Eurofighterbros, and rightfully so.
SEP set to 0 is correct, thats the sustained turn rate.
whats with you guys getting so overly defensive anytime anyone says something that is in any way perceived as negative towards french stuff?!
Years of needless bashing on all corners of the internet, back-to-back dogpiling, years of bad myths against french military gear, including the Rafale
Teaming up against the F-15E Menace would have been best for everyone
Everyone deals with getting bashed, particularly in the WT community. The simple fact that Ive said Id rather planes be modelled accuratepy in the Rafale thread has earned me the monicker of a German main, had a forum mod spread out of context screenshots about me and threaten to punish me for “spreading misinformation”.
Its silly to pretend the french are the only people dealing with these issues, and quite frankly, its not a super big deal what others say about you unless its actively harming you, such as being abject harrassment.
The french truly are the most oppressed minority
this a joke btw
And so the entire community gets defensive when their vehicles are criticized. Your point?
My point is not everyone does, and you really shouldnt.
You also shouldnt make assumptions about a player simply because their opinions dont align with yours.
Like I said before, Id personally prefer the Rafale get the F4.1 designation to have HMD and GMTI for when I eventually play it. My personal views on realism and historical accuracy would prefer the F3R not get HMD, since it didnt have it in french service, though I do understand why people would dislike this. Doesnt make me “anti-french” or indicate I “hate the Rafale”. I very much love the plane.
For one, I didn’t, others did and I don’t know their history or knowledge on you so I can’t speak for them, and neither can you, really.
And it’s fine to be attached to military technology because that’s what having a passion for something is, I mean just ask any American aviation fan
What alt? Those sustains are abysmally low, especially rafale… Real life slatted F-4E with 4 sparrows and around 60-70% of fuel can push 15° STR.
To think rafale with full fuel and 4 missiles getting ONLY .8 more while being stupendously superior in every aspect, is insane. There has to be something wrong.
Oh im not saying you did, I was just speaking generally. I was just responding since i figured itd be rude not to when you responded to me.
Most of the ppl in this thread are pretty reasonable ppl, much like most ppl in the other threads are as well, but its the fanatics who are loudest unfortunately for us all.
Reminder this is the disclaimer the moment you open statshark’s FM calculators.
Sea level as thats the value we had for EFT.
Keep in mind its full fuel and 4 MICA
