Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Not really being defensive in highlighting misplaced blame. The hypocrisy isn’t in our hands, the hypocrisy is in how the devs handle it. Mate has given us reason to be defensive with prior statements, but there isn’t any defensiveness in pointing out they’re taking issue with the wrong side of things.

If mate really wants defensive, should go and say the typhoon needs toning down or that an American aircraft is overperforming notably.

Supported by a Typhoon pilot too

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People like this tend not to listen to pilot testimonies, thus I point to future additions to the platform to resolve the shortcoming. But maybe they’ll prove me wrong.

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I mean it’s in the Aerodynamics, The Typhoon is not built as a dogfighter, It’s not awful in a dogfight, but it’s been shown to struggle against the Rafale in numerous training events.

This guy however has consistently proven himself to be borderline delusional so I wouldn’t expect much from him.

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  1. FM’s arent final. Gaijin has said this over and over again. Theres a billion(hyperbolle for those of y’all who are a little slow) bug reports about both the EFT and Rafale. Bringing up things that are KNOWN not to be right as an argument against preferential treatment is silly.

The fact you “asked” if I was ok with the EFT getting an FM nerf as well proves you were moving the goalpost. (Asked in brackets since its pretty obvious it was an attempt at baiting me into contradicting myself, which is silly an childish).

Sidenote to that, you think the MICA is the only fox 3 thats been nerfed?
AMRAAM Beamwidth currently too large.
AIM-120A - Seeker range too low
AIM-120A & B - Performance against manoeuvring targets too poor
AIM-120A & B - Max range against non-manoeuvring targets too low

These are just a few i could find with a 30 sec search on the bug reporting site lmao.

I want everything modelled properly, Ive advocated for the MICA getting the reduced smoke motor in the past, and was an advocate for the AIM-54C getting it before the MICA was even in-game.

I didnt say gaijins entire stance was favoritism towards France, I said THIS case is blatant preferential treatment. Trying to misconstrue my position to pretend im unreasonable is childish.

Its a really sad part of this community unfortunately

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Highlighting the missing criteria of your position by asking questions (which are quite valid questions in the face of the claim you’re making) is not shifting the goal posts. But if you think it is then your rhetoric skills are substandard and really only going to cause me frustration in engaging with. Questioning points that demonstrate a lack of favouritism in response to your claim of favouritism is an entirely valid approach, not shifting goal posts.

Not baiting you into contradicting yourself, getting you to acknowledge a premise. Which if you do acknowledge, defeats your prior claim of favouritism to the Rafale platform.

In this case, it is not favouritism. It is following the standards they adopted with the easiest to find documentation in order to bring it up to parity with the rating it is at. The HMD present was trialed with the platform, and thus they added it. It was not implemented IRL because of logistics issues, which they’ve demonstrated do not matter in the case of HMD. You can argue to add PIRATE if you want, I do not disagree it is a double standard. But the hypocrisy is not ours. They are following their standards in the case of Rafale.

No, I do not think it is the only one that has been nerfed. But it is, outside of the AAM4(?), amongst the worst impacted by these poor attempts at modeling.

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EFT should not outperform Rafale in a dogfight. The EFT uses long-arm canards while the Rafale uses close-coupled canards. Close-coupled canards are superior in situations of lower speed, high AOA. The Rafale also has less inertial mass to move around.

The EFT has upgrades such as AMK that attempt to improve the low-speed handling of the EFT, possibly in recognition of this.

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I think the Rafale is cool

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Well that was faster than Firebirds itself, a little bit out of topic, so no J-10B or J-11B?

Datamine lastest version back to Rafale C F3-R like dev server, lose Scorpion HMCS, 8x MICA and GMTI

Screenshot 2024-12-14 100643

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Apparently not.
Probably next update. A bit of shame, but I can’t complain since CN got a decent amount of planes past few updates.

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Yeah, same for the US tbh.

Don’t all medium range FOX-3’s currently have the same seeker stats?

Like how you do when any of your nonsense tirades are debunked?

Historical? Like the Eurofighter maneuvering like a TVC Sukhoi but the Rafale is limited to a semi-realistic AoA and stability… as though it was a real plane and not a UFO?

Gaijin has a rich history of this and you have a rich history of crying about it when it doesn’t suit you. Now you’re weaponizing Gaijin’s arbitrary nonsense to attack other players on the forum?

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When Gaijin was introducing EFT and Rafale together in the same update, I expected something like this.

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Theres already a thread of the EFTbros saying Gaijin is giving the Rafale preferential treatment for whatever reason

Just wish that everyone would stop claiming there is any bias except for confirmation bias

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I personally like the EFT more than the Rafale, but at the same time I know to be sensible.

6 mica, no hmcs, no gmti, nice job guys 👍

And the Mica are still going to be shit

No one a has to do a report about the Rafale being to powerful or turning to good maybe ? So it can be even worse. At that point let’s get rid of the HMD too

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I don’t know why Gaijin wants to nerf Fox 3 that isn’t AIM-120.