Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

I don’t know but when I tested it was pulling 17G with almost full fuel and 8 missile, it was straight up Bs.

17Gs, huh
Guess we won’t be far from seeing this in the future in air RB:

Unless Gaijin makes EFT’s flight performance realistic it will be like that, even tho Rafale should be able to beat EFT in cqc easily.

Yes, I am aware.
I’m not saying EFT is bad in a dogfight, but in the realm of delta-canards, its long-arm canard configuration and weight does work against it.

Of course EFT is not bad in dogfight by any means but compare to something like Gripen and Rafale it should be struggle, especially in low speed fights.

Yep, Eurofighter is more geared for supersonic, high altitude performance more than anything.

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When we look at some graphs comparing the Typhoon and Rafale from 2011, the Rafale won in all characteristics.
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On an unrelated note
Gripen though, yikes.

It’s understandable since the Gripen is much cheaper.

I know this and doesn’t represent whole truth about Gripen tho.

Yeah, it makes the Gripen look completely horrible.
I don’t believe this is the case.

Gripen’s much more of a home defence platform with rapid turn arounds on sorties.

So of course, that tends to make it look a lot worse when anything even vaguely considers endurance or payload. As a home defence platform, Gripen’s an exceptional platform. But it won’t be loitering for very long with a full payload. Except the E. They made the E fat.

Yeah it’s 5 years older than the rafale and it’s much more cheaper that’s why Switzerland choose the gripen

They did make it much fatter.
I don’t think the new engine makes up for the weight entirely, it might even have an inferior thrust-to-weight compared to C.

But anyways, this is the Rafale forum, so I will not derail this further.

E has a better thrust to weight, >1. E is a very good platform, comparable to Rafale in agility but with a bit smaller carried payload capacity from memory, and lower range.

Won’t derail further, but also won’t let you be mean to the chonk gripen 😿

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It has better T/W ratio compare to C model.

New engine provides 1+ T/W in any load out.

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The Gripen is a light single engine fighter, obviously it wasn’t gonna hold up against the EFT or Rafale except in cost really

Actually it does, especially NG and E model, but this is Rafale thread so let’s not derail it anymore.

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Ok, that’s good. Because I was getting a bit worried there.

Just so you know, I like the Gripen a lot :p
It’s Gripen > EFT > Rafale for me in terms of the Eurocanards.
I don’t dislike the Rafale at all, the Eurocanards in general set a high bar, and I have difficulty choosing lol.

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i mean clearly the Typhoon is better on paper and in practice

Both Rafale and Gripen equal favourite, depends on the day as to which I favour most so decided I like them the same.

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