Shifting the goalpost HEAVILY here lmao, Im not in favor of ANY ahistorical things. If the EFT is overperforming, it should be nerfed accordingly, Gunjob and Flame have actual performance data for the EFT tho, and have already passed it to gaijin, so all I can do is trust itll be modelled as accurately as possible.
The EFT has also had ordinance denied, with many arguments for it to get 8 AMRAAMs, instead of the current 6, those were shot down just like the Rafale F3R getting 8 MICA’s were shot down.
Yes. Silly question, stop trying to shift the goalpost.
It really isn’t. You accused the Rafale of receiving favourable treatment. Aerodynamics of Rafale’s construction should cause it to perform better in several areas that it currently doesn’t (supported by additions to future variants of EFT). This doesn’t seem favourable modeling to me. Let alone the AAM count not being fudged, when they could have just accepted the reports and followed through on them. In fact, I’m pretty sure they did accept one, but it isn’t being followed through on (Which is demonstrative of restraint, not favouritism). Or the AAMs still maintaining incredibly subpar functionality, in the face of a mountain of documentation. None of these seem particularly favourable.
But if you’re inclined to ignore examples unfavourable to your position, you’re really not worth the time of day.
Im not in disagreement HMD is tremendously important in top tier. I just dont think things should be modelled ahistoricaly, and I think its extremely hypocritical to use the same justifications used to deny one nation something to add something to another.
The MICA’s should be fixed, the Rafale F3R should not get HMD (switch its name to F4.1 or remove the HMD, take your pick, either is historical), flight models should be as accurate as possible, “smart” flares or the 64 flare option should be added, and set the Rafale to the corresponding required BR for its performance.
Because the vehicle theads are like football fans, if you say dare to question something or say anything that is perceived as negative, you will get trashed
i got trashed on Typhoon thread because I simply said that the first dev server FM of the Eurofigher was wrong lol
Not really being defensive in highlighting misplaced blame. The hypocrisy isn’t in our hands, the hypocrisy is in how the devs handle it. Mate has given us reason to be defensive with prior statements, but there isn’t any defensiveness in pointing out they’re taking issue with the wrong side of things.
If mate really wants defensive, should go and say the typhoon needs toning down or that an American aircraft is overperforming notably.
People like this tend not to listen to pilot testimonies, thus I point to future additions to the platform to resolve the shortcoming. But maybe they’ll prove me wrong.
I mean it’s in the Aerodynamics, The Typhoon is not built as a dogfighter, It’s not awful in a dogfight, but it’s been shown to struggle against the Rafale in numerous training events.
This guy however has consistently proven himself to be borderline delusional so I wouldn’t expect much from him.
FM’s arent final. Gaijin has said this over and over again. Theres a billion(hyperbolle for those of y’all who are a little slow) bug reports about both the EFT and Rafale. Bringing up things that are KNOWN not to be right as an argument against preferential treatment is silly.
The fact you “asked” if I was ok with the EFT getting an FM nerf as well proves you were moving the goalpost. (Asked in brackets since its pretty obvious it was an attempt at baiting me into contradicting myself, which is silly an childish).
These are just a few i could find with a 30 sec search on the bug reporting site lmao.
I want everything modelled properly, Ive advocated for the MICA getting the reduced smoke motor in the past, and was an advocate for the AIM-54C getting it before the MICA was even in-game.
I didnt say gaijins entire stance was favoritism towards France, I said THIS case is blatant preferential treatment. Trying to misconstrue my position to pretend im unreasonable is childish.
Highlighting the missing criteria of your position by asking questions (which are quite valid questions in the face of the claim you’re making) is not shifting the goal posts. But if you think it is then your rhetoric skills are substandard and really only going to cause me frustration in engaging with. Questioning points that demonstrate a lack of favouritism in response to your claim of favouritism is an entirely valid approach, not shifting goal posts.
Not baiting you into contradicting yourself, getting you to acknowledge a premise. Which if you do acknowledge, defeats your prior claim of favouritism to the Rafale platform.
In this case, it is not favouritism. It is following the standards they adopted with the easiest to find documentation in order to bring it up to parity with the rating it is at. The HMD present was trialed with the platform, and thus they added it. It was not implemented IRL because of logistics issues, which they’ve demonstrated do not matter in the case of HMD. You can argue to add PIRATE if you want, I do not disagree it is a double standard. But the hypocrisy is not ours. They are following their standards in the case of Rafale.
No, I do not think it is the only one that has been nerfed. But it is, outside of the AAM4(?), amongst the worst impacted by these poor attempts at modeling.
EFT should not outperform Rafale in a dogfight. The EFT uses long-arm canards while the Rafale uses close-coupled canards. Close-coupled canards are superior in situations of lower speed, high AOA. The Rafale also has less inertial mass to move around.
The EFT has upgrades such as AMK that attempt to improve the low-speed handling of the EFT, possibly in recognition of this.
Like how you do when any of your nonsense tirades are debunked?
Historical? Like the Eurofighter maneuvering like a TVC Sukhoi but the Rafale is limited to a semi-realistic AoA and stability… as though it was a real plane and not a UFO?
Gaijin has a rich history of this and you have a rich history of crying about it when it doesn’t suit you. Now you’re weaponizing Gaijin’s arbitrary nonsense to attack other players on the forum?
