I mean it’s in the Aerodynamics, The Typhoon is not built as a dogfighter, It’s not awful in a dogfight, but it’s been shown to struggle against the Rafale in numerous training events.
This guy however has consistently proven himself to be borderline delusional so I wouldn’t expect much from him.
The fact you “asked” if I was ok with the EFT getting an FM nerf as well proves you were moving the goalpost. (Asked in brackets since its pretty obvious it was an attempt at baiting me into contradicting myself, which is silly an childish).
Sidenote to that, you think the MICA is the only fox 3 thats been nerfed?
AMRAAM Beamwidth currently too large.
AIM-120A - Seeker range too low
AIM-120A & B - Performance against manoeuvring targets too poor
AIM-120A & B - Max range against non-manoeuvring targets too low
These are just a few i could find with a 30 sec search on the bug reporting site lmao.
I want everything modelled properly, Ive advocated for the MICA getting the reduced smoke motor in the past, and was an advocate for the AIM-54C getting it before the MICA was even in-game.
I didnt say gaijins entire stance was favoritism towards France, I said THIS case is blatant preferential treatment. Trying to misconstrue my position to pretend im unreasonable is childish.
Its a really sad part of this community unfortunately
Highlighting the missing criteria of your position by asking questions (which are quite valid questions in the face of the claim you’re making) is not shifting the goal posts. But if you think it is then your rhetoric skills are substandard and really only going to cause me frustration in engaging with. Questioning points that demonstrate a lack of favouritism in response to your claim of favouritism is an entirely valid approach, not shifting goal posts.
Not baiting you into contradicting yourself, getting you to acknowledge a premise. Which if you do acknowledge, defeats your prior claim of favouritism to the Rafale platform.
In this case, it is not favouritism. It is following the standards they adopted with the easiest to find documentation in order to bring it up to parity with the rating it is at. The HMD present was trialed with the platform, and thus they added it. It was not implemented IRL because of logistics issues, which they’ve demonstrated do not matter in the case of HMD. You can argue to add PIRATE if you want, I do not disagree it is a double standard. But the hypocrisy is not ours. They are following their standards in the case of Rafale.
No, I do not think it is the only one that has been nerfed. But it is, outside of the AAM4(?), amongst the worst impacted by these poor attempts at modeling.
EFT should not outperform Rafale in a dogfight. The EFT uses long-arm canards while the Rafale uses close-coupled canards. Close-coupled canards are superior in situations of lower speed, high AOA. The Rafale also has less inertial mass to move around.
The EFT has upgrades such as AMK that attempt to improve the low-speed handling of the EFT, possibly in recognition of this.
I think the Rafale is cool
Well that was faster than Firebirds itself, a little bit out of topic, so no J-10B or J-11B?
Datamine lastest version back to Rafale C F3-R like dev server, lose Scorpion HMCS, 8x MICA and GMTI
Apparently not.
Probably next update. A bit of shame, but I can’t complain since CN got a decent amount of planes past few updates.
Yeah, same for the US tbh.
Don’t all medium range FOX-3’s currently have the same seeker stats?
Like how you do when any of your nonsense tirades are debunked?
Historical? Like the Eurofighter maneuvering like a TVC Sukhoi but the Rafale is limited to a semi-realistic AoA and stability… as though it was a real plane and not a UFO?
Gaijin has a rich history of this and you have a rich history of crying about it when it doesn’t suit you. Now you’re weaponizing Gaijin’s arbitrary nonsense to attack other players on the forum?
When Gaijin was introducing EFT and Rafale together in the same update, I expected something like this.
Theres already a thread of the EFTbros saying Gaijin is giving the Rafale preferential treatment for whatever reason
Just wish that everyone would stop claiming there is any bias except for confirmation bias
I personally like the EFT more than the Rafale, but at the same time I know to be sensible.
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I don’t know why Gaijin wants to nerf Fox 3 that isn’t AIM-120.
It is pretty disappointing. I expected better of the British side of the EFT. Would have hoped they’d have fought to get Rafale and EFT to be appropriate opponents of each other instead of trying to take a hatchet to Rafale and buff EFT well beyond aerodynamic limits when compared to Rafale.
Just makes me sad, in all honesty. Get the Germans wouldn’t be inclined to do that, but had hopes for the Brits.
They could have a good dynamic especially since the Rafale’s kit is better suited for close range knife fights anyway. Ignoring that it is setup for that aerodynamically too compared to the EFT.
And what about the Brimstone on all the Typhoons? Shall we talk about it? Please be mindful that War Thunder is just a game. Complaining while using words in all capital letters makes it seem like you’re angry—dude, it’s just a game…
I think starting a debate about the Typhoon vs. Rafale here is not a good idea because it would only create some ‘hate’.
