Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

And R-27T/ET doesn’t have as tight of a gatewidth as other missiles … (1.33 deg vs 0.75)

like i said it wont change anything for the ET

Unless the engine of AIM-9M is severly lacking in game it has nowhere near the effective range of an ET.
Even the bas T variant should be superior.

The size of the motor would tell you that…R-27s are huge
IRL 9M has a head on range of 18km)…
In game you cannot lock more than 3km away.

Thats the issue here

You can perhaps lock on at that range.
The kinematic performance is a different matter.
A slightly improved seeker performance on R-73, R-27T/ET as well as Magic 2 does not equate to the same capability as ASRAAM.

Iam pretty sure that a 9m has enough energy to hit a target further out than 3km in a head-on

He was mentioning 18 Km lock ranges.

It is not inefficient per say the missile simply wont be fooled as easily.

I disagree high up if they dont see it no reason it couldnt potentially glide and hit a target further away then it can currently can.

Having that flexibility would make the 9M better and with the improvements thrown out for all other missiles it wouldnt break the game.

My undertanding is currently you have a short window to flare a R-73/Magic 2 before the seekers occular closes the FOV and focuses purely on your engine.

If it is focusing straight off the rail the only way to defeat it is through angling your airframe so your flares intersect the FOV of the missile which is risky and harder to do when you are already defending. With ranges and flights times (people generally dont launch R-73 or Magic 2s from more than 2.5km) They are going to be significantly more lethal than what we currently have in game.

in a headon?
because that seems a bit far in any other aspect
in a rear-aspect shot i dont go further out than 1.5km, if the target is running away, to make sure the missile hits

Side profile a Magic 2 from that range is pretty dangerous although I must say I have only used them on the 2000 C4 and not against the 14.0s

might be that then

i think a f-15e, EF or Rafale can just outrun those missiles if they want in side aspect

Usually the magic 2 has the range to hit targets at up to 2-2.5km against low supersonic jets with an aircraft launch at the same speed at ground level.
It will be slightly lower for faster target/slower launch vehicle, and higher at higher altitude .
At 2.5km if the enemy doesn’t perform maneuver you’ll reach it just fine but if he starts maneuvering the magic 2 can lose too much speed

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Swedish Gripen from the 211th Fighter Division and French Rafale somewhere at the height of the Arctic Circle.

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More from the same exercise :

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Rafales and Gripens in formation is perfection itself

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The 2 best looking eurocanards by a huge margin imo

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The 3 eurocanards design make me think of this :

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2 being nice and the other one is just here for the sake of it.
EF be like :

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Ngl im more a eurofighter fan but rafale is a close 2nd for me