If US annexes Canada, it could become a sub tree for the US tree …
maybe they could also finally unlock the canadian decals for france 💔
I talking for sim, but i don’t see how you get defeated with a Eurofighter. You just have to play high alt, you will be able to launch the AIM-120 at least 8 to 15km before the Rafale and since the Rafale has to notch and the distance is way too far, it can’t launch back.
That’s the problem with the Rafale is that there’s no point at the moment to play high alt.
You can also play extremely offensive on sea level with the Rafale, but top speed will be limited and won’t able to follow other planes
The Rafale is incredible in sim, much better than the EFT. Between the radar being vastly superior, having more fox 3’s, and having permanent HMD IFF without emissions, its ISR capabilities are in a league of their own. Its countermeasures are also vastly superior (being mostly large CM’s instead of the horridly nerfed BOL ones the Typhoon relies on) tho it has less of them. The radar on the Typhoon is an outright liability in sim, which is not an issue the Rafale has to contend with, seeing as it has the single best radar in-game, and by a wide margin to boot.
The Rafales also been buffed significantly in flight performance, its time to alt and time to speeds match, and sometimes even exceed the Typhoons now, and the MICA can be used off-bore comfortably, unlike the AMRAAM, which means its also much more comfortable to use in a defensive manner.
Typhoon is great if the target makes it easy to find them, like flying in the cons or with their radar on well before the engagement starts so the Typhoon can set itself up for an ideal intercept, but anytime the Typhoon has to rely on its radar and its reliability as an aircraft falls drastically.
One thing the Typhoon does have ovsr the Rafale tho is the ability to bring some spare ground attack ordinance to help its team without impacting its air to air weapons load, something the Rafale cant do, but the Rafale tends to win sim matches by just outright bullying everything else into just quitting the match and finding one with less Rafales (or Rafales on your own team) since its just a better jet in air to air 99% of tho.
Also, you can def play the Rafale at high alt, its probably the single most maneuvrable jet at high speed high alt now since they nerfed the Typhoon and buffed the Rafale. You can sling MICA’s very far with very high pK% from high alt, and the disadvantage of sitting in the cons is mitigated by having a radar that will almost never miss a threat due to its massive scan area an superb scan speed. This is an even bigger deal on very cloudy sim matches, where cons are less of an issue and your radar becomes even more valuable, which are pretty common matches. If you do end up defensive in a BVR situation, you can also pretty comfortably sit in the notch and bait targets in for an off-bore MICA shot they themselves will lilely be unable to do much about unless they coninue shooting missiles at you until they merge.
Ive seen many more EFT’s hugging the deck waiting to ambush ppl than Rafales, simply because the radar is so awful it can pretty easily get you killed.
In RB I could agree the EFT competes (tho id still personally say the Rafale is likely better), seeing as its handheld by the spotting mechanics. Not in sim.
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Typhoon is still faster to get to alt.
Yes you can launch offbore but that’s even less range, those never hit.
You guys surestimate the current state of the radar, yes it has a wide scope, yes it can get lot of target, and able to pretty much look up and down, but it is very slow to get first acquisitions, which means in a 1v1 you will get locked first.
Barely, if at all at this point. Id have to redo the test with higher fuel loads (as seen in sim), but atleast at 20min fuel with air to air loads, the difference is a few seconds, and I tested this with a Rafale missing most of its performance mods…
You’re clearly VASTLY underestimating the radar. In its narrowest scan pattern, it scan similar or larger volumes of sky than most/all other radars in-game barring the other ESA’s, and its doing the entire 30x15.75° scan in 1.7 seconds. In terms of scan rate, its top 3 fastest in-game, with its only competition being the other ESA’s.
Numbers are all here comparing the RBE2-AA to the CAPTOR-M for example.
You can use 70x31.5 (or the new 140x31.5) for raw search function early in flight to build a battlefield picture that is literally unmatched by any other jets ingame, ID which target you plan to engage, and you can use the 30x15.75 “narrow” scan to rapidly find and engage any target as long as you get the azimuth right within ±15°.
You can also choose to fly radar off to deprelive the enemy of your radar emissions for finding you, instead using a mix of the IRST and OSF (or TGP) to find targets without them knowing you are there, and then use the HMD IFF to IFF them without them even knowing you are there. There are only 4(?) other aircrafts with a similar capability atm, (British/Italian EFT’s, Su-30SM, J-11B) none of which have the HMD IFF you have, which means they need to either visually ID the target, or turn on their radar and wait for the trackfile to determine IFF.
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You guys are super underestimating the rafale lol. It’s easily the best plane in the game, especially in sim. Radar combined with its missiles and insane turning ability at high speed makes it easily the best plane for high off boresight hms targeting with the micas.
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That’s why I said it “It used to be”, not “As right now”.
this livery makes me want to play chess
lots of ifs, but the fact that it’s being considered is flabbergasting in its own right. So much for “peace first” i suppose
Regarding the MICA and to come back on topic, i would genuinely prefer if it had its actual range but the Rafale gets limited to 6 missiles. It’s also surprising that RBE2 AESA has basically half of the range it’s supposed to have
imo I’m not surprised Gaijin better giving Rafale 8 missiles instead of actual MICA Fix, because MICA is really powerful if it can do BVR. I can’t believe I can rack up more kill in EFT than Rafale by simply going BVR and denying enemy BVR Spam.
But well, I’d also think that maybe in the next summer update, Gaijin will give MICA its actual fix, because we already had R-77-1 that can pull harder but also travel faster. MICA only edge is the Thrust Vector, but that will also make it a double-edged sword because even with a fixed MICA, I’d think it’s still bleeding faster than most missile, even more than R-77-1.
it would bleed less energy than 77-1, but have a weaker engine
MICA is quite aerodynamic IRL, it shouldn’t decelerate as fast as it currently does. This deceleration problem is quite a classic on french missiles. Magic I & II used to hit a wall the moment the engine was off (fixed since then), Mistral also has a deceleration issue, and so does MICA.
It’s not necessarily linked to the missile themselves however, but maybe the way air itself is modelled in this game. MICA for example can reach more than mach 5 if fired high and fast, and its speed in the high altitude regime seems somewhat correct or even a bit overperforming, but it is unable to reach the speed it should reach in its VL configuration (should be mach 3, barely reaches 2.6-2.7 in game)
Agree with that, but AFAIK, for R-77 also suffers from this problem, R-77 shouldn’t bleed too much speed when traveling, but Gaijin really can’t model that air thing making R-77 have way shorter range than it should be.
from my understanding, R77 suffers from the absence of drag depending on speed
Overall though, the missile should be draggier than other missiles, with a very slight disadvantage at high speed, and a really high drag at transsonic speeds
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as a general rule of thumb, things tend to be destroyed faster than the time they take to build
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True but I can’t imagine that happening… I hope it won’t happen, that would put the whole western world on the ground
Lmao
