Eh, I would say everything which coukd be reported is reported…
We have currently ~50 reports which are Accepted/Suggestions
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I meant that launching mica missile and asm hammer from rwr would yeah make it crazy op and would only happen if similar planes could get such features and as far as i get eurofighter doesn’t have it or i did not see it talked about at all and we would wait more on something like f35.
I’m not against the current balance, no need to assume things, i’m still waiting for everyone to get competitive spaa with the current cas there is…
50 km range MAWS lol. Could probably have a quick snack and still have time left to defeat the missile
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I think guiding MICA-EM with IRST is already in the game. When I lost radar lock and radar automatically switched to the IRST, my MICA was still guiding based on datalink and relocked the target on its own thanks to the speed and distance provided by the datalink (even though it switched to IRST). However this was at rather close range and I only have idea about it because I held “U” key for checking if MICA-EM is guiding or not.
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We have plenty, Gaijin just pulls the “marketing lies” on us
Arguably its already been covered, its just not something explicitly stated or that the EFT crowd have focused on a whole lot, seeing as there are other more pressing matters wrong with the EFT at the moment.
This post by Gunjob explains that all individual sensor tracks are amalgamated into “system tracks” and fed into the attack bus.
I do have a source regarding the ability of IRIS-T to be launched via radar/IRST/MAWS/DL/HMD for example, which you could technically argue doesn’t include the RWR, but seeing as all the info is merged into a system track when fed to the attack bus, I’d argue it was more of a missed mention imo, but I could see the argument that it “cant” be slaved via RWR either, though that’d be functionally irrelevant, since the pilot would just have to turn his head to look at the target and fire the missile via slaved HMD acquisition, which itself would have received the info from the RWR (among other sensors).
Arguably speaking, the ability to fire LOAL weapons via sensors other than the radar is probs not exactly anything crazy for modern jets in general. As long as the sensor can provide accurate azimuth and elevation, you’d technically have enough info to fire in a LOAL mode. If you’re going for targets outside the weapons seeker range, the targets vector of motion and range would be needed to have a decent chance at an intercept trajectory, but I’d be somewhat surprised if out of sensor shots were being made without the support of a “more” weapons grade track (something providing azimuth, elevation, range and target vector). Modern RWR’s should all be roughly capable of this tho, seeing as they can already get azimuth, elevation, approximate range, and should in theory be capable of discerning an approximate vector for the target based on its rate of positional change relative to itself.
So generally speaking, I dont think firing AAM’s off non-primary sensors is likely to be a unique feature of the Rafale. It might just be such a mundane feature for modern jets that nobody else bothers mentioning it. The French and Dassault do generally seem to be somewhat loose with their OPSEC regarding the Rafale in the first place, I wouldnt put it past them to brag about a very normal feature on a modern jet.
The statement “so long as it doesnt give to the Rafale the edge over other planes, it won’t happen” implies that gaijin wouldn’t buff the Rafale if it made it any better than other jets. That may not have been what you meant, but its how it reads, if I misunderstood, I apologize, but the french players have also had a habit of significantly downplaying the capabilities they have and pretending they are the perpetual victims of gaijins hatred or neglect, so putting 2 and 2 together, I may have jumped to conclusions, sorry.
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What’s up with the constant Eurofighter people flooding this topic ? there’s close to none of us on the EF topics
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Because most of the time certain people here are baiting the EF people here with comments how this or that is bad on the EF.
It was specifically mentionned he didnt think the EFT could do said thing, so I provided info on it being able to, and why most modern planes likely can as well.
Also, Ive said this about a billion times now, I like both and have both. I do however find the EFT community more reasonable to deal with.
I did however think about answering his question in an EFT thread, since I knew atleast one person would get their panties in a twist over seeing the letters “EFT” in this thread, but elected not to, since the comment was still in compairison to the Rafale and an answer to someone elses question in this thread.
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Can we vote “None of the above”?
Hi
After the game update, the Rafale’s MAW still doesn’t indicate the missile’s position like the EF-2000 does.
Also, the MAW detection range is still only 5 kilometers.
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Afaik, the report on this is still open.
MAW detection range was reported to be 27km, still open. DDM-NG still is given DDM stats but DDM itself should be reported to 10km soon so they may change DDM-NG to 10km until they resolve the 27km report.
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Are there any reports on missing informations on the HUD?
If you’re referring to this bug report, the RWR already does range missiles in-game with the MSL mark on your RWR. The report does not seem to indicate SPECTRA has any way of ranging missiles that do not have their own radar emitters, such as IR missiles and SACLOS SAM’s.
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You’re keeping up with my reports better than I am! I will have to include sources today showing how SPECTRA can range missiles even if they do not have emitters.
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Source 3
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How is it measuring range passively? Stadiametric ranging? Triangulation?
It isn’t doing so passively, IR-MAWS cues the the AESA antennas that cover the aircraft spherically, and these AESA antennas send a small beam to the missile tracking its trajectory and jamming if needed. We don’t have jamming in the game but they can atleast model the part where the missiles are being tracked by the AESA antennas.
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“RF detectors” and “Passive Ranging” they don’t emit.
Passive ranging is via the RF detectors, so as they’re passive that ranging can only be for incoming active emitters.
Thales makes no claims here it is using the Jammers to range a target. Just sector coverage. Given traditional jammers are normally fairly indiscriminate in direction of jamming, sector jamming would help to solve the jamming unintended targets problem. But again no ranging capabilities.
I think you are conflating the capabilities of multiple sensors.
UV MAWS can provide an accurate bearing in azimuth and elevation.
RWR can provide passive ranging and bearing in azimuth and elevation of active emitters, as well as ident etc etc
LWR can provide accurate bearing in azimuth, elevation and range(I think).
So for a IR missile (passive threat);
MAWS sees it, RWR sees nothing, and LWR sees nothing. Fuse that together and you get IR missile alert, exact bearing in azimuth and elevation for the threat.
for a SARH/ARH (active threats);
MAWS sees it, RWR sees it and LWR doesn’t. Fuse together you get, Active missile alert, exact bearing in azimuth, elevation and passive ranging. Then the jammers should kick in cued up by the RWR.
edit; just fixed up some grammar & formatting.
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