Such as?
The 122s? What other Swedish leopards would they be claiming? They’ve already the leopard 1s and the 2a6s. They’ve a mostly credible claim to first 122, the rest are pretty Sweden specific on account of environmental influences on their ugprades.
I made an ironic statement so you can see how stupid the argument of Britain getting the rafale is
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Yeah, so does your cope tbh, I don’t see much reason in discussing personal grudge for France, especially when you’re literally strawmanning my points. Blame Gaijin for giving the Taiwanese Mirage 2000 only for one update only to be killed by Rafale in next update 🤷♂️ not me.
Fair enough.
They dont claim that Strv122’s should be in German tech tree, they are saying the armor on 122’s developed by German company so Germany should also recieve similiar armored Leopards.
At least thats what sane German players says.
I must have missed the sane ones then. Though that claim is not much of an improvement, otherwise the Brits and Swedes could get nigh everything on account of BAE involvement in spall rubbish and such. But it is definitely better than “122 to our tree because reasons”.
Though this is derailing and unrelated, so wrapping up now.
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From what I see on here most of the ground players tend to have “interesting” opinions
Most of them are jealous people who wants to see every other nations vehicles in their favourite tree, kinda like people who wants to see Indıan Su-30/Rafale and F-18 or UAE Leclerc and M1A2 on British tree.
to me the funniest of them all are the ones who cry russian bias despite never playing a russian vehicle in war thunder.
… I agree that the Pantsir and KH-38 are powerful but that dosent justify comments like this imo:
KH38’s are powerful until enemy team spawns with proper CAP plane, when that happens SU-34 becomes food.
As for the Pantsir, while its true that its the best Spaa platform at top tier any competetent pilot can easily avoid and destroy it with little effort.
Spaa’s at top tier generally helpless against any good pilot.
yeah they are powerful until you try actively countering them but for some reason alot of players dont understand that
they rather try to dogfight with their fully loaded f-15e and then cry about it when they lose
Even then F-15E will still win the dogfight 80 percent of the time.
I’ve also noticed most complaining players about KH-38’s are the EFT pilots, guess they got dissapointed when they learned they cannot spam 18 F&F Brimstone missiles while having one of the best airframe that can challenge anything in air.
In order to get us back on track I brought some Egyptian Rafales
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The F-15E has 20x GBU-39/B, in future that may well be extended to the, 39A/B (Laser SBD-I) GBU-53/B or AGM-187A/B.
let alone the potential for 13x (15x) CBU-105 / -103 and other ordnance that the F-15E(X) could use to ruin ground forces days if they are ever implemented.
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TBH they should give Brimstone at least limited F&F capability
Make it F&F but also make it defeatable by smoke grenades, if you think it will be too OP.
It might not be 100% realistic, but it’s at least better than not giving it any F&F capability at all …
It could be explained by the smoke grenades also having chaff mixed in them or something … (For example IIRC naval ships can deploy chaff along with smoke)
Isn’t that a thing most modern tanks actually have?
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We know that it was deployed at some point, as to if it remains in inventory is unknown.
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From all emitting on-board radar devices only radars can be detected by RWRs.
MAWs, radar altimeters, doppler nav radars (for ground speed measurement) and others are not detected by RWRs due the gameplay reasons. They also can’t be switched off in the game, which doesn’t allow players to switch between better situation awareness and “better stealth”.
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In this case Rafale should receive both Optic and Radar MAW as when a missile is detected by the DDM NG, Rafale sensor fusion uses AESA antenas used for jamming to get the missile position and JAM it. Considering in game jamming still doesn’t exist it should at least get the capability to track precisely incoming missiles detected by the DDM NG.