Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

Yup but still Irl typhoon struggle to have such performance in combat.

For example, in it’s design the winglet at the front are messing with the pilot field of view in contrary of the rafale. Turnrating is Better too for the rafale, overall it’s a better plane. And in game, the rafale lack performance too.

For example the typhoon in game is the best version ever builted. The rafale placed in game is not even the best possible such as the rafale F4. He lack top speed, maneouvrability, radar performance, anyway. But in game it seems that the typhoon will always be way better than the rafale in a multitude of way.

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Rafale is an excellent airframe
If we are talking real world.

It would be very close both have Meteor BVRAAM
Mica IR and ASRAAM/IRIS-T are similar in performance.

The Rafale in game one of the later version it is a combination of the C F3 Indian version.
In French service the Rafale would be the C F4

Only real changes are improved ECCM and Talios pod integration.

Typhoon is Tranche 2/3. Tranche 4 will bring Typhoon with a the new CAPTOR-E Radar and Striker 2 HMD and
Praetorian DASS impovements.

Can’t wait to see the F.5 final config - I can only imagine how SmartGliders, Meteor MLU (two more missiles overall), new Cruise Missile, ARM, vastly improved RBE2-XG, SPECTRA improvements and maybe M88-3 look like all together )))

I wonder how a Rafale with TVC would look like / perform lol.

Funny thing about that; the Indian Rafale standard (lets stop calling it F.3R please) is very close and already shares features as well as hardware from F.4 standard.
What we have in-game is just a “what if” config based on wrong interpretation of pictures and second party sources. Only the HMCS is relatable, the two additional MICA are incorrect.
(Basically the M2K and 4x Magic story all over again…)

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Thats fair im not knowledgeable when it comes to variants.

The Rafale will supercede the Typhoon because it has to. France haven’t commited to a Gen 5 airframe.

The Rafale will perform the heavy lifting until the European Gen 6 programme is delivered.
Britain and Italy operate the F-35 with Germany placing orders and Spain in need of the Av8B replacements.
The necessity to upgrade the Typhoon to TVC and AMK levels isnt needed or a priority.

Sadly we will likely never see the “final boss” version of the Typhoon

MICA IR happens to have datalink which the others don’t and more range (although ASRAAM has a lot of range as well).

The other thing is that 8x MICA IR can be carried by the Rafale while the same can’t occur for the EFT when it comes to the ASRAAM/IRIS-T. So more IIR missiles can be carried by the Rafale which contains datalink and ability to update mid-course even with the IRST while PIRATE can only initially fire it but cannot update mid-course which can mean ASRAAM and IRIS-T never finds the target in the first place.

Then there’s the issue of MICA NG IR, which contains 60% greater range. In the future we could see a potential loadout of 8x MICA NG IR.

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I predict that Rafale F4 standard for france tech tree start Rafale B F4.1

Rafale EH built on Rafale F3R but pre integrated domestic indian weapons and close to Rafale F4.1 standard

Ah yes, so it’ll blow up at 50.9km rather than 50.8 this time right?

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Gaijin moment

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F.3R serves as SOP (Standard of Preparation), basically as basis for export since ~2016. Indias EH has, unlike standard F.3R, hardware and other features from F.4, making it its own standard.

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i wonder how this missile compares to the Peregrine

Very much untrue.

Is it tho ? last news from mbda on their official website said it would be 40% increase, even tho 70km would still be really good.

It could be more than the 40% but well, at least hopefully we will get either more news with the delivery of the mica ng or in 2026.

Are you sure ASRAAM cannot be data linked?

It has a LOAL feature would would suggest some sort of data link, it can also be guided by the PIRATE system

Never finds its target…no way it can track those massive heat emissions…

“The missile can be deployed using lock before launch capability to engage targets in the forward hemisphere. It can be launched in ‘lock after launch’ mode to engage targets beyond the seeker acquisition range.”

“The ASRAAM is guided by an advanced, accurate focal plane array Imaging Infra-Red (IIR) seeker developed by Raytheon. The passive homing guidance system provides the ability to significantly track, acquire and engage targets beyond visual range (BVR) under severe clutter and countermeasures environmental situations.”

This is all on the first version of ASRAAM considering we are now on Block 5/6 the missile will have only improved. It will be challenging to hide from an ASRAAM.
IRIS-T is a close range HOB similar to the AIM9X it will excel in close range engagements

Don’t be so quick to dismiss what other nations have.

2023 ASRAAM datasheet.pdf

Low altitude and the ranges the MICA excels at they really are a few changes in direction into the notch some chaff and change altitude and they will miss in most cases. It’s even easier if the shot comes from below as the seeker is not in PD filter mode and chaff will defeat it

There is not any reliable evidence to suggest it does. IIRC there is some evidence to suggest the Block 6 might have it, but MBDA have been very tight lipped about what Block 6 actually involved, other than it being a bunch of improvements and a new seeker.

Not really, it could just be going off inertial guidance.

He mean it is possible that if fired at long range on inertial guidance the target could have moved by the time the missile is within range to lock on.

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There’s some things that can be ascertained but for now we don’t still yet have dimensions for the Peregrine missile currently.

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3rd part guidance would suggest a form of DL?

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No, it means a third party can send information to the launch aircraft, which can then be used to cue the missile.

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I assumed before that ASRAAM had datalink, but then I was corrected. I couldn’t even find the datalink receiver on the missile itself. Missiles typically have datalink receivers which are visible on the rear. Here are some examples:

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120-datalink

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