I think theyre mostly just angry at me and taking it out on every other potential nation group there is that they can remotely associate me with, which is why theyve taken this extremely elitist attitude and started badmouthing most other nations, so I apoligize on that front.
Seems to have mostly started since they seem to perceive me as a Eurofighter purist/fanboy and therefore can “get back at me” by attacking the EFT and EFT related nations, despite the fact I’ve said over and over again that I love the Rafale (and 4th gen jets in general), and have played multiple nations to high/top tier, mostly splitting my time between France and Russia as of late when playing air battles.
I have never seen a nations main react so violently to the idea of a historical nerf, particularly a relatively minor one like in the case of the MAWS on the Rafale, as in this thread.
Oh, no, those are correct (although I have doubts passive ranging is going to be a thing).
But other aspects, like FOV, might be incorrect. Who knows. But because not everyone is an ass, the people aware of that are looking into it with other people that have done reports on the EFT if contradicting sources are available before going to whine on the forums to ask for people to do the reports for them.
We’ve (I) already done everything that can be done without getting some of us banned from this place and possibly being put in front of the Bundeswehr’s higher-ups, considering they still haven’t made even the docs from early 1980s public since they like keeping secrets. The one time we had a chance to make Leopard 2s mantlet imprevious to any sort of Kinetic and Chemical fire this game has and will have to offer, we got duped by the Canadian MoD into thinking the info can be used, just to be told by BAAINBw that it ain’t :p
not realy, because german stuff is underperforming, would love for you guys to give examples of where we are withholding nerfs in the ground department, air i cant speak as much about since we dont realy have a modern air anymore and most is handled by the brits in that apartment
Sorry to bother you, but I have a very quick question concerning this report: Community Bug Reporting System . I fail to understand how this (quite incoherent and vague source) is used for the PIRATE IRST field of search:
However, this very clear and coherent source for the Rafale’s OSF IRST (from the French government’s technology and procurement optronic department, no less!) is not able to be used:
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Here is another primary (different author but from the DGA’s optronic department again) which once again proves the very wide field of search of OSF:
It’s an image of the IRST MFD screen (in an official marketing presentation from EADS), which shows a scan width of +/-70° selected. What is “incoherent and vague” about that?
Yeah I can’t see why those wouldn’t be accepted. Has the report been outright rejected or just not actioned yet?
It doesn’t explicitly define +/-70° as the azimuth limits. A separate excerpt from the same EADS presentation indicates the azimuth limits are in fact much smaller:
Get a protractor, measure the “semi-scan width” and you will get 140°.
Yes it is indeed possible to select a smaller scan pattern for the IRST (the datasheet says it can scan “the whole field of regard or in a selectable volume”). That page also shows the radar scanning a smaller volume than it’s maximum scan width.
Well, since my comment got removed (I thought I would be safe), I will cite a separate source - Hayne’s “RAF TYPHOON Owner’s Workshop Manual”. Anyway, back to the excerpt:
PPI is the “Plan Position Indicator” and presents all data not just the IRST. I will send you the relevant page on Discord then hopefully we can continue the discussion here.
PIRATE’s field of search (FOS) is certainly over-performing. At best it should have a FOS of 120° x 45° as opposed to the 140° x 80° it has been erroneously given:
PIRATE should also have significantly degraded performance in tropical conditions since it only operates in the LWIR band. This is from Sofradir which should be considered the most authoritative source concerning infrared technology:
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For comparison, Rafale’s OSF is currently missing its very wide FOS:
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It also operates in both the MWIR and LWIR spectral bands, and should therefore have greater performance over a more diverse range of weather conditions.
PIRATE is quite out-dated technology. It’s rather funny that a consortium of three of some of Europe’s most technologically proficient nations still produced an inferior IRST to France alone.
