I mean we already seen photos of pre F.4 models with outer wing pylons. Unless its some super specific model with extra capabilities
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Kuwait Sub tree, in the mind of Kishin, would have been to add it to France.
Also you have 2(3?) Sub tree already
If they fix all bugs remainning on all of those missiles, it can be.
MICA-EMs haven’t been fixed since they have been added. Doubt they fill fix them now. Even then, I am happy with MICA’s current close combat capabilities, as I also prefer close combat over BVR fights (I suck with AIM-120)
I just simply think 4 AMRAAMS + 2 IR may not be enough for top tier, but we will see. I still think I’m probs gonna prefer the M2K5F
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Fully operationnal F.4.1 models have been delivered,… but that’s not the F.3R Standards Gaijin plans to add now
France has Belgium, Luxemburg and Holland as subtrees we are even
As 1 whole sub tree, called Benelux,… and it’s not even remotely fair to originality,… pretty much all models existed before.
wait hang on, the MICA in game goes on the HAMMER pylons? i am losing it
@Cpt_Bel_V @Tagalyaga Don’t get me wrong, I would also rather see an earlier Standard of the Rafale instead of the second latest. F.3.3 (or just F.3 “Late” lol), would have also been enough and compareable to the EFTs we are now getting. While it would lack AASM-L, GBU-16 and Mk.80 series (who is going to use these anyway while having AASM-IIR as Kh-38MT equivalents), as well as AESA which arguably isn’t needed, but still very capable.
This specfic Rafale is what I’ve talked about earlier; its the C101 testbed (previously known as C01, which to my knowledge also lacks a significant amount of avionics, which can also be clearly seen on the pictures) that doesn’t have a lot in common with production ones.
Which is correct. The MICAs on the C101 are mounted on the new additional Pylons, which were added with F.4.1, also known as SP3 pylons.
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its still three different countries.
I mean, for all those arguing we all know what the worst Best solution is
Britain gets an Indian Rafale and france gets the Austrian eurofighter (or something, idk)
AND neither get their own aircrafts
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This photo dates back to 2014 at least so it way before F.4 was a thing
Yeah I don’t really get it either, they are adding a loadout-downgrade to the 5F but it has AESA… why not let it run 6 Mica 2 Magic ?
They just quoted something that doesn’t disprove the report either which is whatever atp
I guess we’ll see if they buff the micas like people said would happen if we don’t get more missiles… LOL
Yes, the other pylon is only available since the F4.1
[DEV] Rafale is missing Radar Cross Section reduction features
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/tFZv3zNB8bE8
This one might be difficult to get passed, sadly sources are really hard to come by. If anyone has better sources for Rafale RCS, please share them!
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I guess we’ll see if they buff the micas like people said would happen if we don’t get more missiles… lol
I don’t get why people think MICAs will be fixed if Rafale performs bad. That’s not how the snail operates. It never is, or was. Simplest example being instead of fixing Leclercs, they chose to add Leopards. We never asked for Leopards.
Guess how was the Magic buff/corrected
The Leclerc is one of the best tanks in the game and has one of the best win/game ratios.
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Ha , ha , ha,… so wrong - military programs in France works so the Testbed will be severly modified to test out any ideas, that could be used on industrialized 10-20years later on Series.
This is the same story about those hardpoints.
Rafale M F1 Late would be BR 14.0 ? Why ?
None AASM IR seeker and Damocles targeting pod
But I might not think gajin considered in 2 or 3 major update, at least
Equipments like Rafale B & C F3-R but Exocet anti-ship missile it’s exclusive for french navy
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man i love modern aircraft, but i also hate them for warthunder due to stuff like this being so confusing