Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance

[WreckingAres283]

@Cpt_Bel_V @Tagalyaga Don’t get me wrong, I would also rather see an earlier Standard of the Rafale instead of the second latest. F.3.3 (or just F.3 “Late” lol), would have also been enough and compareable to the EFTs we are now getting. While it would lack AASM-L, GBU-16 and Mk.80 series (who is going to use these anyway while having AASM-IIR as Kh-38MT equivalents), as well as AESA which arguably isn’t needed, but still very capable.

@Texas_Engineer_Mike

I mean we already seen photos of pre F.4 models with outer wing pylons. Unless its some super specific model with extra capabilities

This specfic Rafale is what I’ve talked about earlier; its the C101 testbed (previously known as C01, which to my knowledge also lacks a significant amount of avionics, which can also be clearly seen on the pictures) that doesn’t have a lot in common with production ones.

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@Prof_LOGIC22

wait hang on, the MICA in game goes on the HAMMER pylons? i am losing it

Which is correct. The MICAs on the C101 are mounted on the new additional Pylons, which were added with F.4.1, also known as SP3 pylons.

[Caernarvon02]

its still three different countries.

[lxtav]

I mean, for all those arguing we all know what the worst Best solution is

Britain gets an Indian Rafale and france gets the Austrian eurofighter (or something, idk)

AND neither get their own aircrafts

[Michael-IR]

This photo dates back to 2014 at least so it way before F.4 was a thing

[Bringer_Of_War]

Yeah I don’t really get it either, they are adding a loadout-downgrade to the 5F but it has AESA… why not let it run 6 Mica 2 Magic ?

They just quoted something that doesn’t disprove the report either which is whatever atp

I guess we’ll see if they buff the micas like people said would happen if we don’t get more missiles… LOL

[Mathll]

Yes, the other pylon is only available since the F4.1

[Zayf]

[DEV] Rafale is missing Radar Cross Section reduction features

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/tFZv3zNB8bE8

This one might be difficult to get passed, sadly sources are really hard to come by. If anyone has better sources for Rafale RCS, please share them!

[Tagalyaga]

I guess we’ll see if they buff the micas like people said would happen if we don’t get more missiles… lol

I don’t get why people think MICAs will be fixed if Rafale performs bad. That’s not how the snail operates. It never is, or was. Simplest example being instead of fixing Leclercs, they chose to add Leopards. We never asked for Leopards.

[Mathll]

@Tagalyaga

That’s not how the snail operates. It never is, or was

Guess how was the Magic buff/corrected

@Tagalyaga

Simplest example being instead of fixing Leclercs

The Leclerc is one of the best tanks in the game and has one of the best win/game ratios.

[Cpt_Bel_V]

Ha , ha , ha,… so wrong - military programs in France works so the Testbed will be severly modified to test out any ideas, that could be used on industrialized 10-20years later on Series.

This is the same story about those hardpoints.

[oom1992]

@Cpt_Bel_V

Normal M F.1 could be set 0.3/0.7 higher than Mirage 2000’s, with corrected FM

@Cpt_Bel_V

Rafale M F1 after M4000

Rafale M F1 Late would be BR 14.0 ? Why ?

@Cpt_Bel_V

Rafale C F.2.2(retains AASM, key feature) after Mirage 2000-5F

None AASM IR seeker and Damocles targeting pod

@Cpt_Bel_V

M F.3R

But I might not think gajin considered in 2 or 3 major update, at least

Equipments like Rafale B & C F3-R but Exocet anti-ship missile it’s exclusive for french navy

[Cpt_Bel_V]

@oom1992

None AASM IR seeker and Damocles targeting pod

Here:

@WreckingAres283

F.2.2 - (F.2 Late)
Added: AASM-IIR, AASM-GPS, SPECTRA update - GBU support (buddy lasing required)

[Prof_LOGIC22]

@WreckingAres283

Which is correct. The MICAs on the C101 are mounted on the new additional Pylons, which were added with F.4.1, also known as SP3 pylons.

man i love modern aircraft, but i also hate them for warthunder due to stuff like this being so confusing

[Cpt_Bel_V]

@oom1992

Rafale M F1 Late would be BR 14.0 ? Why ?

FM, radar aspect, avionics

[Madame_Elisa]

So why does the F3.3’s cockpit show a pylon that supposedly doesn’t exist? What would go there?

Especially on non-demo fighters using that slot?

[Madame_Elisa]

F4.1 began in 2021 and entered service in 2023 according to Dassault Aviation, 2014 is before F3R was even a thing

[Cpt_Bel_V]

Maybe because that’s why they refused to upgrade the Su-27 R-77 to R-77-1? ^^"

[Cpt_Bel_V]

Began? You’re that naive?
For real bro, i have worked with DGA before, i know how they work around programs.

If they had more money, F.3R would have been recieving those SP3

[Mathll]

@MademoiselleSXXI

So why does the F3.3’s cockpit show a pylon that supposedly doesn’t exist? What would go there?

Do you have the evidence to tell me that each point corresponds to an armament? Because personally I don’t see any

[Madame_Elisa]

You really think they were testing F4.1 before F3R or even F3.4 entered service? Similar photos date to 2009. Hell, the actual contract for it is dated after the flights happened