Yep. Basically they are capable of carrying it, but there’s no information on wether it has ever been tested.
Greek rafale looks to be F3R according to @DirectSupport at the very least so you can expect a copy paste at least for air to air missiles.
(not sure about air to ground armement like AASM since I haven’t seen information on Greece buying them)
I believe you meant Indonesian and not Malaysian. I don’t expect to see Indonesian one added right away since it is F4 standard while Greek one is F3R which we have ingame. I expect if they add F4 for it to come to France and Indonesian subtree at the same time.
Greek is very similar to what we’ve currently, but different HMD and Lightening TGP (iirc) - Malaysia doesn’t have any Rafale, Indonesia ordered Rafale F.4.
ah yeah thats what i meant
would they get mica NG and meteor aswell?
Meteor would be compatible but nothing indicates for MICA-NG since that is planned for F4.2 and Indonesia ordered F4.1. F4.2 isn’t due to be delivered to any country except for France towards the end of 2025/early 2026.
Could be possible that Indonesia upgrades their F4.1 to F4.2 standard as well ofc.
There also has not been confirmed if any other country plans to procure MICA NG anyway aside from France, so there’s that as well
it’s “Standard”, with integration made from one to another variant (they share the same connections for central pylon, on-board Avionics and Firing Control Systems, aswell as softwares), trials might have been considered from one M, to any B or C.
i also think (but not sure on this one) that the ASMP-A pylon installed on central pod, is the same as AM.39 one since the Rafale M also is able to carry ASMP-A
based on this comparison:
Rafale M with ASMP-A
Rafale M with AM.39 Exocet
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wrong thread for rage bait, go there:
I do not doubt that rafale B and C can very easily carry Exocets, I’m just considering the fact that they were visibly never installed nor tested on them. Or if we continue that way, rafale could carry aim 9X or irist on every pylons since they are technically compatible
Lmao, guy saw « comparaison » and went straight to the rage bait when it’s not even a discussion of in game performances
well, yes : AdAE never had AM.39
like i told there already:
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" WRONG - THREAD "
is that hard to read?
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In regards too the Rafale bug report regarding energy retention linked here Community Bug Reporting System I have found that it is not just the Rafale the poses unrealistically high energy retention in game. I have tested the F-15E, Eurofighter, Su-27, and MiG-29 and found during the same test Feetpics conducted the F-15E and Eurofighter actually out preform the Rafale in the speed bleed test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkGhEOU41jc&feature=youtu.be My test linked here. It is important to note I did not record my MiG-29 or Su-27 test but they did not reach even remotely close to 100kts of energy loss in 5.2 seconds in a high G turn. In this case why the report was accepted in the first place? If they were to set the Rafale to hit this data point it would quite literally preform worse than a MiG-21 with the current in game aerodynamic physics. Currently with the current aerodynamic physics as shown in my test no top tier jet is actually going to be hitting this data point or anything similar too it. Although what I think doesn’t quite matter, this report should be labeled as not a bug, unless gaijin plans to do a complete rework on aerodynamic physics or unless they plan to nerf the Rafale to the point it wont be able to dogfight a MiG-21. Now with all fairness this 580kt to 480 kt in 5.2 seconds is a data point for the Rafale, but I think we all know that its not a far fetched accusation to say most top tier high performance jets should preform AT LEAST somewhat similarly to this data point, especially given the fact Feetpic’s own secondary sources support this. According to his sources the Rafale at low altitudes has similar STR performance too jets like the F-15, Su-27, and EFT. And also given specifically the EFT’s similarities to the Rafale in design they should posses somewhat similar energy retention. My point is the Rafale should not be nerfed to this data point unless they also fix the other jets energy retention as well, and therefore if they don’t plan to do that aerodynamic rework that fixes this energy retention issue for all jets than the report should be under the “not a bug” title. I wouldn’t be surprised if pre buff Rafale was also overperforming in energy retention as well.
I wouldn’t go that far. Superficial similarity does not mean identical or even similar performance.
Considering this here is a 15C (significantly weaker engines by a margin of ~25%, or ~20% depending on which way you choose to measure it) this wouldn’t entirely be surprising. Eurofighter is not on the chart, but ESR-D is (which as a set of requirements eurofighter can be safely assumed to have met or exceeded)
Adjusting for the F-15E’s thrust (actually +22%, i checked instead of guessing.):
It is however true that every airframe in game overperforms (by a pretty decent margin)
besides the Su-27 and Mig-29, which are nowhere close to being better than a gripen or on par with a rafale in WT, going of that chart
Gripen’s energy bleed is faaar too low i will say that. It still feels on rails.