The interesting thing is that the Phoenix also got that seeker buff (unless I’m somehow miss remembering it ?).
There has also been a report for the 120C, but for some reason it was removed when in dev server, which I still don’t understand.
As for other seekers, everyone complains about them, but were there any reports on them ?
That’s a nice one.
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What does the speed gate mean
I’d have to double check but I suppose will be harder to pick up missiles on radar. This is just a guess.
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What’s interesting about this is how long the Rafale is gonna stay relevant in top tier, even after further decompression, after others nations get better aircrafts and that without the need or a newer Rafale
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Rafale should have a little bit more fuel // Gaijin.net // Issues
Doesn’t matter too much in the grand scheme of things. This is showing the Rafale is missing 60kg of fuel, just for a bit of accuracy.
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It would also mean we will not get anything new for a while because we got a way too late variant, way too soon, we would have been fine with any early Rafale, from F.1 to F.3.
We could have got a Rafale M F.1 in december 2024, then in June 2025 a C F3, with still the PESA RBE2 and 6 MICA, but with A2G… Then we could have got a Rafale F4 with everything we have in the current one + AASM 1000, for something like december 2025. This would have been smoother, and not making us bored to death because the Rafale got speedran into the latest variant from the begining.
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wait you’re allowed to use datamined values for reports? I purposely left out the current f-16I empty weight in my report on it cause I thought it wasn’t allowed?
I 100% agree with that, adding the F3R in December was a very stupid choice. It should’ve come with meteors when needed
The F.1 and F.3 would’ve been way more balanced as well
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That would be really good, because currently I’ve been playing Rafale C using solid radar lock against BVR targets, otherwise my TWS would automatically switch onto enemy missiles and guide my MICAs at them.
BTW, Rafale C is great at BVR, just fire at 40 km max, alt 10000m+ and speeds above 1800 TAS. Loft to 15 degree and fire at headon F-15Es. Missiles are almost hypersonic, so you don’t have to keep radar lock on for too long before they self home.
Relevant bug report for the upcoming Rafale weight reduction. Maybe the weight reduction is too much? The Rafale’s Weight Reduction on DEV May Contain Inconsistencies // Gaijin.net // Issues
Except you’d need missiles to exceed 1600m/s to be ignored by 0-1600m/s speed gate the way I understand it.
And short of air launching SAMP-T, IRIS-T SLM or Buk, its unlikely to happen.
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Yeah that report was going nowhere. TM asked Directsupport if the presence of ammo could be confirmed when report was passed, but he misunderstood the French source (talked about showcasing a gun pass, not making an actual gun pass), so the presence of ammo was removed internally.
I mean he is not wrong. MICA are technically mostly underperforming compared to IRL, in turning ability, range and acceleration. Doesn’t mean it currently needs any of those changes anytime soon tho
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This is kinda funny and a treat to wake up to. Bad_Karma (youtuber) makes an argument that the Rafale should be 9,550kg for a conservative estimate. What’s wrong with that argument? The new dev-server Rafale is set exactly to 9,550kg. I mean at this point a lot of these youtubers need to stop with their relatively misinformed opinion they hold against the Rafale and start approaching this subject objectively.
Also another reminder that developers do not take my answer as final at all, they look at the sources and make up their own opinion/calculation on it. My own calculation is to prove to the tech mods that I attempted to do my homework somewhat.
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I guess the error comes from the dateline showing empty mass of 9300kg, which probably doesn’t refer to the same empty mass set by Gaijin in reports ?
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It could be that I underestimated just how heavy the Rafale C is in-game with pilot+ammo+full fuel, I’m not that good with datamine stuff. But yeah, it’s funny to know that the Rafale could potentially still be overweight by 70kg (ammo) which should be re-visited with an attempt to find more sources on it.
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underperforming compared to IRL, follow the discussion before posting
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