Dassault Rafale - Variants, Characteristics, Armament and Performance - Part 2

Thanks to Doggo and Oceanfish for the source and summaries.

Some interesting things were announced regarding the Rafale and the Eurodrone:

Very short summary of what was said :

  • The official aim for the M88 T-Rex is 11 tons of thrust, 9 tons being capability Safran was already able to deliver 5 years ago
  • Dassault didn’t come out of the Eurodrone programme but Airbus kicked them out because of the discussions over the DGA not allocating funds to procure it
  • The NGF and UCAV for the Rafale F5 and more broadly the collaborative combat system already are in the works, the UCAV being close to completion
  • Dassault is currently investing into different AI and small drone companies in order to fund the development of cheaper strike capabilities controlled by an AI combat cloud
  • The UAE are indeed back in the talks for cooperation both on the F5 standard and possible « other programs »

Source: Avenir de l'aviation de combat

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Not a typo btw,
Current Rafale (7.5 tons of thrust)
Original Rafale F5 goal (9 tons of thrust)
Updated Rafale F5 official goal (11 tons of thrust).

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Surely that’s got to be some sort of FCAS risk reduction, 110kn per engine is slightly ludicrous a medium-small airframe.

I’d have guessed the Rafale would exceed the combat load for its pylons or drag would factor in, or fuel efficiency penalties before that level of thrust was even close to being warranted.

I would think it would be a reduction in cost for the future French NGF if they upgrade and implement technologies on the Rafale. Hopefully the new engines also means that more thrust will be available to power all the systems on-board.

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Can I ask?how to visually differentiate between Rafale f3r and f4?I would love it if you guys could tell that(this is so hard lol!)

Now the question is; which F.4?

Between F.3R and F.4.1, there is barely any difference visually. Mostly just the HMCS fiducials on the canopy glass.

The F.4.2 however has a flat antenna in front of the stabilizer.

I see. I’m not really sure about that (Cause I dunno), but if you want,maybe you can help me show the visual differences between the F3/4 variants :>

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Figured I’d give you guys an update on things.

A former technical moderator/Gaijin staff is alleged to have had fakes in his reports. This former Gaijin staff member will now have ALL of his reports closed and was prolific in making reports as well as passing reports.
Leclerc S1 incorrect name // Gaijin.net // Issues

Here’s a comment that Gaijin has made on a report of his, a report from before his time as a technical moderator (the title that was given to him).

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This doesn’t bode well for Rafale reports as he passed a non-insignificant amount of Rafale reports, and so it leaves questions as to what happens to all of the reports they had passed. If the reports he passed are all on hold until another staff member can re-review them, then that would mean most Rafale reports will not see implementation into the game until they have been reviewed again.

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so uhhh

the system is working as it should?
if someone uses fake sources obviously all their reports need to be re evaluated or closed because there is a good chance they have fake sources too.

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Would be willing to place money on them counting these reports reviewed, and flagged not to action them, instead of making re-review a priority.

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I don’t know man something smells fishy.

These are same guys who claims EFT’s supercruise capabilities are marketing lie alongside with many other things, not to mention instead of removing the bug report that contains false information they went full witch hunt on him.

Not to mention how come these so called ‘‘developers/managers’’ didn’t realized faulty information in the first place? This is too skeptical, we need to see the whole picture first.

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That’s… funny

For good reason, apparantly Wareta specialy denied rafale reports targeted to nerf it as well.
Asking other people to form responses he can use to deny them

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serial numbers

you should probably not do that
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far enough, but I also expect the thread to be cleaned very soon. Wrecking probably will call for a mod to remove “off topics”

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These are valid points and I agree with it, for instance I forgot the EFT report that contained fake sources.

Mythic’s can get flammy easily sometimes and I can understand why but like you said blaming entire Rafale community isn’t fair in this case.

As for the informations you delivered to Wareta and other reports he made are completely fine, he did make good reports based on multiple confirmed sources which is why stated that this whole “witch hunt” when it comes to his reports isn’t completely fair.

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There’s no dispute on that, just sucks that it happened. The good news is that my reports on the Rafale could probably get reviewed by entirely different Gaijin staff and then re-approved. Some of the community members had concerns some of my reports were being passed where another Gaijin staff wouldn’t, so the reports being reviewed should dispel all doubts. I’m also open to providing all links and the full PDFs if they ask.

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