Dance of Dragon - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

Apparently different situation because the hornet is way more known and iconic while the f5 were meh

I don’t understand what you’re hinting at?

Germany has plenty of good or decent CAS options it used IRL:
Tornado with guided bombs
Alpha jet with 27mm and CCRP
Su-22 with laser guided ATGMs
F4F with mavericks

Then they got the fire&forget option with the Swiss Hunter, but not as a subtree vehicle.

You don’t necessarily need Mavericks or such systems to be competitive in the higher ranks.

Germany only bought into such systems way after other nations were already using it for a long time.

Either GER players wait untill the Eurofighter for these kinds of munitions, they get a singular vehicle of another nation that did have this capability or they get a subtree (which it doesn’t really have the room for, outside of the top 3 ranks).

What I’m trying to say is, Germany doesn’t really need a subtree urgently, they could rather wait for a couple updates untill they are top dog again…

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He did explain why they were different

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No it isnt, because tha da1 is a prototype stage that received later modells.
If you give it anything it stops being a DA 1 and becomes another version

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Eurofighter Tranche 1 and Tranche 2 had a conventional PD radar

that’s open knowledge, no need for evidence

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also the US did not “Need” the Av-8B

It was more of a “can come at any point” vehicle

I can understand this. There must be first the F-18E for US completed, to copy&paste the avionics over into the Swiss Hornet cockpit.

For me there was no really believing that we would see a F-18C with E cockpit before we see a F-18A/B

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You say that like the F-5 wasn’t one of America’s most used and exported fighters before the F-16 was made.

Then it should have come a while ago with Gripens

hey don’t you forget the Mavericks on the F4Fs

Talking about top tier CAS, and the tornado is kot decent for that. With the same argument you could take away the gripen from the brits.

Decent top tier cas at this point needs a targeting pod and stand off missles at this point

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Will add them!

Nice joke 👍

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Germany never was truely a top dog air wise since cold war era

I perform really well with my British Tornado, so I don’t see how the German variant at the same BR will be worse.

the gripen wasnt added for CAS tho and i rarely bring it since the Harrier Gr7 is better for CAS

Agreed, I mostly only use the groundstrike variant in GRB.

not quite, it’s more agile than the Gripen but also as much of a Missile bus as the F-15 is

it’d be the Air RB Dominator without question

it’s worst radar is ~ 30% better than the Best one we have now

The small matter of the Italians with their F-104s until kingdom come.

Or the Brits with their Tornado F.3. Which wasn’t even usable on release and was riddled with bugs.

But, “only germany suffers”

at the same time there are not many nations which are worse after rank 6 air. Only japan and israel.