Dance of Dragon - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3)

I mean that Eurofighter has UV MAWS (Frontal), IR MAWS(Frontal), laser warning system, Radar MAWS and 2 towed decoys.

The F-15EX does not have any of these systems (yet) and specifically MAWS AFAIK but retains the blisters for them similar to the Saudi and Qatari ones for future integration of a different system and also to simplify the programming of the Flight control software so it retains the same profile as the other advanced eagles.

I’m not saying it won’t be an advantage but the towed decoys can compensate for 2 missiles minimum, and the various MAWS systems on the Eurofighter mean it can go defensive sooner and defeat missiles sooner, which opens up the potential for counter-attacks earlier. Particularly as missiles become faster.

This is why I would say they are balanced without theoretical loadouts and going to the extreme of 22 AMRAAM’s.

IF they actually model that stuff properly lol

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Museum one

Where muh AIFV-C25 (COCKERILL)

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Well that is another point as they haven’t modelled it fully (or maybe at all I don’t remember) on the Mirage 2000 as i’m sure @DirectSupport could tell you. And similar to that on M2K it does not alert unless the missiles are actively flying towards the aircraft with essentially zero chance of false alarms. And I’m not 100% sure how Gaijin would model the level of sensor fusion as the UV and IR MAWS on Eurofighter comes from the PIRATE system.

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The F-15EX has better radar afaik, and if they added Saudi F-15 we could get one with maws. My hope is they add whatever new sensors to the F-15EX by the time it gets close to being in-game so we can get them.

We could have towed decoys now the Tornado used a TRD…Phimat pods, ECM suites none of it modelled.
It is said the Foxhunter Radar can jam the Radar on the Su-27…
Will we ever get EW/ECM?

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At this rate? Probably not

Not currently, as radar missile parameters have been updated 2 days ago, and now it is nearly impossible to notch them.

Feels like HARMS and other anti radiation missiles they just don’t want to add it.
Imagine the salt as Su-27 having their radar jammed.

It’s complicated (both nations claim they have the best radar in service of course), I’d wager the EX’s AESA radar is probably better in pure power, but also this also supports the F-15EX being limited to its historical 12 AMRAAM as it puts it ahead in another way over EFT. But the EFT’s radar has a 90 degree gimbal limit, which means it can notch whilst still guiding a missile or missiles via 2-datalink preventing their smaller seekers from being notched or chaffed.

Perhaps they do add the UV MAWS to the F-15EX its undecided yet though according to the aviationist, its unlikely. Either way IR and Radar MAWS provide more utility as they can track missiles that have burnt out and to longer ranges.

But again F-15EX has more missiles and perhaps the better radar.

Another good point ECM isn’t modelled, though I’d wager we see towed decoys soon enough particularly as they don’t require any specific conditions mostly, for example those on EFT can be used throughout the entire flight envelope.

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After the F-14 event I haven’t touched air battles.
That’s both good and terrible, considering the mess BOL pods are and how poor chaff is from them

True

HARMs and such have no place in the game unless they add better SAMs/SPAAs for all nations

We already have them in game Russia has 20 mile KH missiles
That’s essentially how HARMS would act keeping you completely out of range

That doesn’t mean we need more of that kind of CAS

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Any news regarding the Sa-8 that was supposed to come and then not?

Nope

Eh, the radar already is shit, can’t be worse

Imagine not being able to use it…