I think a Ukrainian/Czechoslovakia/Poland as a full new Tech Tree would be sick!
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Slovak Wolf armored vehicle with Mangart 25 RCWS during a recent testing event
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OK, this one is actually preety neat (i only seen the vehicle with a mockup turret, so its nice to know they actually put it on there and it didnt stay on paper only ;) )
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An update to my ground tree
Hi there. In 8 days, it will be exactly one year since i made the last update to my ground tree proposal, so i thought it would be a perfect time to update it yet again. I added 12 new vehicles, deleted 2 that dont really belong in there, moved some and changed BR of few other. The new vehicles mainly include rank VIII wheeled IFVs and modern AA systems, ranging from short-medium range (SPYDER SR, KUB CZ) to those intended mainly for C-UAS and low-flying aircraft on lower ranks. There is also a brand new mortar variant of the Pandur II with direct fire capability, and some interesting WW2/early post-war tanks too.
New vehicles
Schwimmpanzer 38(t) (Rank I, BR 2.3, Premium)
Armament: 37mm Škoda A7
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 50mm
Floats can be taken off, turning the Schwimmpanzer into a regular Pz.38 F with only small, mostly cosmetic differences
ShH vz.18/47 (Rank II, BR 3.7, Researchable)
Armament: 152mm vz.18/47
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 30mm
(Hummel with its gun modified to fire Soviet 152mm rounds)
PATRIOT II with Trakon RCWS (Rank V, BR 8.0, Researchable)
Armament: 30x113mm Venom LR cannon
Max speed: 110km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
(gets access to proximity-fuse ammunition)
Deftech WOLF 25 C-UAS (Rank VI, BR 9.0, Researchable)
Armament:
25mm KBA autocannon
5x 70mm FZ275 laser-guided rockets (More possibly stored inside)
Max speed: about 120km/h
Armor: can protect from 50. cal
Pandur 8x8 C-UAS (Rank VI, BR 9.7, Researchable)
Armament:
30mm autocannon
4x short range ground-to-air missiles
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
Pandur 8x8 UT-120m (Rank VII, BR 9.7, Researchable)
Armament:
120mm Crossbow mortar
12.7mm M2 Browning coaxial
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
APS: Iron Fist
Gun is fully stabilised, has elevation angles of -3° to 87°, direct fire capability and 10 rounds per minute rate of fire. Oh, and ofcourse the MRSI capability (but that one aint modeled in the game yet anyway)
Vydra 8x8 Bushmaster II (Rank VII, BR 10.3, Premium)
Armament:
30mm Mk 44 Bushmaster II
2 + 2 (reserve) Spike-LR ATGMs
Max speed: over 100km/h
Armor: can protect from 14.5mm
BOV 8X8 Vydra (Rank VIII, BR 10.7, Researchable)
Armament:
30mm GTS-30/N
2 + 2 (reserve) Spike-LR ATGMs
Max speed: over 100km/h
Armor: can protect from 14.5mm
Pandur II 8x8 EVO (Rank VIII, BR 11.0, Researchable)
Armament:
30mm Bushmaster II
2x Spike-LR/LR2
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
APS: Iron Fist
2K12 Kub CZ battery (Rank VIII, BR 11.7, Researchable)
Armament: 3x ASPIDE 2000 missiles per MFU (12x missiles per baterry of 4 MFUs)
Radar/command unit: modernised 1S91 Surn
Max speed: about 50km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
SPYDER SR (Rank VIII, BR 12.0, Researchable)
Armament:
4x Python-5
or
I-Derby/ER missiles (with separate radar vehicle)
Max speed: 110km/h
Armor: none
(this would be a standalone, separate vehicle. One SPYDER SR will later on also be present in a regular SPYDER battery
Other changes
TITUS: removed from the tree completely
TITUS ARX 25: removed from the tree completely
T-72EA: Gets access to heavy protection kit. This version comes with even better ERA coverage, SLAT armor on the sides where ERA isnt present, ,cope net" on the back, retractable cope net over the turret and also chains placed in front part of the turret. There is also an EW kit, which should help against enemy drones.
Photos of the modification
T-72M1: T-72 ERA modification replaced by the T-72 ERA (STV). This modification, on top of better Kontakt-1 coverage compared to previous ERA, comes with a slightly modified engine and drivetrain
PATRIOT II: Moved to premium, changed from SPAA to light tank
ShPLK BRAMS: Foldered with Strop II
T-72M2 Moderna folder: switched places with Leopard 2A4
T-72M2 Moderna late: BR changed to 10.7
Number of vehicles after the changes
Rank I: 21 researchable vehicles + 11 premium vehicles
Rank II: 17 researchable vehicles + 2 premium vehicles
Rank III: 12 researchable vehicles + 4 premium vehicles
Rank IV: 15 researchable vehicles + 7 premium/squadron vehicles
Rank V: 20 researchable vehicles + 8 premium/event/squadron vehicles
Rank VI: 26 researchable vehicles + 8 premium/event vehicles
Rank VII: 19 researchable vehicles + 6 premium/event/squadron vehicles
Rank VIII: 7 researchable vehicles
Total vehicle count: 183 vehicles (making it by far the largest techtree in game, having 12 vehicles more than the Soviet techtree and as many vehicles as France and China COMBINED)
Of that:
120 fully indigenous (I.E. developed and produced in Czech/Slovak factories) (66%)
53 upgrades of foreign vehicles (mainly of licenses) (29%)
10 copy-paste (vehicles that would play same as their in-game counterparts) (5%)
Spoiler
I also changed the colour of “researchable vehicles” count. Hope its more readable now (idk why i didnt think of it sooner lol)
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I am quite curious about Tiger with Škoda A 18 cannon, what is the story behind it?
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goddam, that is an actual boat. Would be funny if it ends up in a naval tree
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There isn’t much info about this vehicle sadly. All we know is that shortly after the war (1947 i think), a Škoda A18 cannon was installed on a Tiger tank for testing. There ain’t no photos nor oficial documentation i could find, and I think i once read that we don’t even know if it was truly Tiger 8 and not II. Some sources state that the Škoda A26 cannon was tested in a same way. The tank itself wasn’t supposed to be some post-war upgrade or anything. It was all done just to test the gun itself
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Genuinely insane how large this tree could be. This isn’t even counting the aircraft or DC-1 gunboat (on another note, are there any coastal vehicles that Czechoslovakia and it’s successors can get?). If it ends up in the Soviet tree, then that would be the biggest waste of a subtree, even more than Hungary is now.
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Sucessors not really, and Czechoslovakia itself also had a ,navy” only until 1950s. Still, there are some interwar warships, aswell as Austro-Hungarian warships that could be added. It will probably be the best if you check out my naval proposal :D
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Looks good, though it could also go to Italy (I’d much rather it go to the Czech (if only gajin didn’t make one the worst decisions for a subtree ever so it could pair well with the other V4 members)).
Maybe a polish sub tree would help?
Photos of the Polish SKOT-2AM. Good material for a premium vehicle or replacement for the Czech OT-64 ATGM
Polish TOPAS-2AP can be delivered as SPAA or premium. Armed with a 14.5mm and 7.62mm machine gun
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Dana-M/M2 another Polish vehicle that the Czechs have access to.
KTO Ryś E-8 is a Polish modernization of OT-64 SKOT. It is armed with a 30mm cannon and a 7.62mm machine gun
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Perfect vehicles for polish tech tree
the Czechs also have the right to these vehicles because DANA, Topas and SKOT were created in Polish-Czech cooperation (Ryś is a modernization of SKOT, so it also counts).
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So far no countries have rights to these as both aren’t in game.
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Of course, it works both ways. Poland has the rights to the OT-62, OT-64 and ShKH vz. 77
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DANA was just Czechoslovak SPGH project, Topas too. Later modernization made by Poland should only go to Poland with the only exception being export vehicles.
Yeah, no.
Only “Czech” thing about Ryś is that SKOT was joint project between Czechoslovakia and Poland. Ryś was full on heavy Polish modernization so it should only go to Polish tech tree. Not both and not only to Czechoslovakia.
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I actually made a mistake. However, this suggestion is about the Czechoslovakian tech tree, so they may get Polish variants of export vehicles.
Besides DANA M2, none of them are export versions from Czechoslovakia or post-velvet states.