DANA was just Czechoslovak SPGH project, Topas too. Later modernization made by Poland should only go to Poland with the only exception being export vehicles.
Yeah, no.
Only “Czech” thing about Ryś is that SKOT was joint project between Czechoslovakia and Poland. Ryś was full on heavy Polish modernization so it should only go to Polish tech tree. Not both and not only to Czechoslovakia.
I actually made a mistake. However, this suggestion is about the Czechoslovakian tech tree, so they may get Polish variants of export vehicles.
Besides DANA M2, none of them are export versions from Czechoslovakia or post-velvet states.
I might do it a little differently, but it would only be small changes.
Thank you for your work, it looks beautiful. Czechoslovakia definitely deserves to have its own tech tree.
Hopefully we’ll see it soon :) 🇨🇿🇸🇰
This has such a high following, I wonder why they haven’t started the nation yet.
Many others do to, but Gaijin is mainly focusing on fixing the game at the moment, filling in gaps, adding new features etc. It’s smarter to do that now, instead of adding a new tech tree which could also introduce more problems
Took the time to read thru all this, flawless.
Massive +1.
I hope they don’t bugger it and add Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Korea(s) as top priotity standalone trees ASAP.
I know this is off-topic but how are people going to get the sources for North Korean tanks
No clue. I do believe in “educated guesses”, for whatever that’s worth.
Iirc Eritrea, Ethiopia and Iraq used Ch’ŏnma tanks and (if memory serves right) Egypt and Russia both used /use self propelled artillery/mlrs from North Korea so those could be sources of info.
Most likely going to be guess work from there on out, though gajin did pass a north Korean plane for consideration, despite the fact we dont even know it’s name.
But when a person tries to do a bug report…
Classic gajin
(Just suggest bug fixes to be locked behind paywalls)
Also don’t forget Poland 💪
would never ))
A lot of it can be reasonably guesstimated. Base Soviet technology + probable Soviet-inspired upgrades (Kontakt-1/5, T-72 armour, reverse-engineered ATGMs, etc.), and more modern stuff likely from China + reverse-engineered Western tech. Won’t ever be 100% but most modern vehicles aren’t anyway, so I don’t see an issue tbh.
It would make bug reporting hell though…
Exactly my point, the vehicles would either be more OP than they should be, or underpowered
If they relax their rules to accept speculation, I could for sure make some quite detailed guesses for them. I just doubt they would, in which case getting stats changed would be near impossible since we basically only have propaganda numbers and secondary sources (many of which are filled with errors).
Hi there. On the occasion of the Independence day of Czechoslovakia, im presenting you with what likely is the largest techtree proposal this game has ever seen.
Since the last update back in September 2024, i´ve managed to find an astonishing number of vehicles of all kinds, which i have now added into my extended ground tree proposal. The techtree basically grew by 1/2 with this update, with the increase in number of vehicles from 293 before, to 451 now.
Appart from the very large number of new additions, the tree also received some BR and placement changes.
Extended ground tree is meant to show all possible additions, no matter how crazy they might be as long as they could potentially work atleast somewhat effectively. BR and overall placement can be completely wrong, although im trying to make it as close to the in-game reality as possible)
Armament: 37mm Puteaux SA 18
Max Speed: 8km/h
Armor: max 16mm
Will be unlocked either by reaching rank II or in a special event
Armament: 15mm ZB-60
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 37.2mm cannon (vz.34???)
Max speed: 32km/h
Armor: max 12mm
Armament: 37.2mm BA1
Max speed: 32km/h
Armor: max 12mm (open-top)
Armamet: 70mm or 37mm BA1 cannon (basically a single cannon whose barrel could be exchanged on the field to either perform anti-infantry/fortification or anti-tank role)
Max speed: 35km/h on tracks, 40km/h on wheels
Armor: max 16mm
Armament: unknown (something like 75mm maybe???)
Max speed: unknown
Armor: unknown
Armament: unknown (something like 75mm maybe???)
Max speed: unknown
Armor: unknown
Armament: 12.7mm DShK
Max speed: 72km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 37mm vz.34
Max speed: about 40km/h, likely more
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 37mm Škoda A3 cannon (mockup only)
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 25mm
Armament: 37mm semi-automatic cannon (likely Škoda A4 Beta)
Max speed: about 40km/h
Armor: max 25mm
Armament:
1x .50 M2 Browning
1x 7.62 machinegun
Max speed: 140km/h
Armor: can partly protect from small arms fire
Armament: 7.62mm M134 minigun
Max speed: about 160km/h
Armor: can withstand small arms fire (gunner exposed)
Can be fitted with Boomerang gunfire locator
Armament: 7.62mm M134 minigun
Max speed: 140km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
Armament: 37.2mm cannon
Max speed: 32km/h
Armor: max 12mm
Armament: 47mm Škoda A-2
Max speed: unknown (likely around 60km/h)
Armor: unknown (likely around 6mm)
Armament: 75mm K51 L/24
Max speed: 80km/h
Armor: max 30mm
Armament: 45mm 20k
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 50mm
Armament: 23mm NS-23
Top speed: 94km/h
Armor: max 13mm
Armament: 105mm le.F.H.18
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 30mm
Armament: 25x 100mm RPL-1 anti-air rockets
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 37mm Škoda A7
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: max 30mm
Armament: 37mm Škoda A19
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: max 30mm
Armament: 25x 100mm RPL-1 anti-air rockets
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: hull same as the T-34/85
Armament: 14.5mm KPV-1M
Max speed: 150km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 105mm StuH 42
Max speed: 40km/h
Armor: max 80mm
Armament: 2x cannons (likely 40mm Škoda Z1)
Max speed: 80km/h
Armor: exact value unknown. Likely around 6mm
Armament: 12.7mm M2 Browning
Max speed: around 150km/h
Armor: none
Vehicle gets acess to thermals, tracking of aerial targets and SLAP rounds for extra performance, both against aerial and ground targets (otherwise it would have no chance against them)
Armament: 12.7mm M2 Browning
Max speed: about 180km/h
Armor: none
Vehicle comes equipped with laser rangefinder, thermals and auto-tracking ability, aswell as SLAP rounds for fighting chance against ground targets
Armament: 50mm Kwk 39/1 L/60
Max speed: 80km/h
Armor: max 30mm
Armament: 75mm Aufklärerkanone 7 B 84
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 152mm vz.18/47
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 30mm
(Hummel with its gun modified to fire Soviet rounds)
Armament: 37mm Flak 36
Max speed: 46km/h
Armor: max 80mm, turret unprotected
Armament: 75mm KwK 40
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 50mm
Armament: 75mm Kwk 43
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 80mm PAW 600
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 88mm PaK 43/41
Max speed: about 60km/h
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 75mm PaK 42 L/70
Max speed: 35km/h
Armor: max 80mm
Armament: 76mm Škoda A19
Max speed: about 60km/h
Armor: max 50mm
Armament: 50mm autocannon
Max speed: about 60km/h
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 75mm Pak 40
Max speed: 80km/h
Armor: max 30mm
Armament:
76.2mm Škoda A19
or
85mm vz.44
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 75mm Pak 40
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: unknown
Armament: 75mm Pak 42
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 75mm Pak 42
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 2x 30mm MK103/38
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 85mm vz.44 (ZIS-S-53)
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: max 90mm
Armament: 85mm vz.44 (ZIS-S-53)
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: max 90mm
Armament: 85mm vz.44 (ZIS-S-53)
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: max 90mm
Armament: 2x 30mm vz.53
Max speed: 36km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 2x 30mm vz.53
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 75mm Škoda A18
reload rate: 1.5 seconds
magazine size: 5 rounds
Max speed: 60km/h
Engine 1: 331 kW
Engine 2: 37 kW
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 88mm Pak 43
Max speed: 46km/h
Armor: max 100mm
Armament: 122mm DT-25T
Max speed: 37km/h
Armor: max 120mm
Armament: 83mm T-21
Max speed: 95km/h
Armor: max 13mm
APS: EFA
Armament: 2x 82mm vz.59
Max speed: 80km/h
Armor: max 12mm
Armament: 2x 30mm vz.53
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: max 17mm
Armament: 2x 57mm S-68
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 100mm AK 1
Max speed: 60km/h
Engine: 736 kW, Škoda AHK
Armor: max 100mm
Armament: 100mm AK 1
Max speed: 60km/h
Engine: 736 kW, ČKD AXK
Armor: max 100mm
Armament: 30mm 2A42
Max speed: 65km/h
Armour: max 32mm
Armament: 2x 30mm vz.53
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: max 17mm
Armament:
12.7mm NSV machinegun
2x 70mm FZ275 laser-guided rockets (More possibly stored inside)
Max speed: about 120km/h
Armor: can protect from 50. cal
Armament: 2x laser-guided rockets (More possibly stored inside)
Max speed: about 120km/h
Armor: can protect from 50. cal
Armament: 30x113mm Venom LR cannon
Max speed: 110km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
Armament: 100mm D-10T2S
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: max 200mm
Gets access to Želivka entrenchment device
Armament: 100mm D-10T2S
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: max 200mm + extra ERA protection
ERA: Kontakt 1
Armament: 25mm cannon
Max speed: 120km/h
Armor: can withstand .50cal fire
Armament: 30mm 2A42
Max speed: 120km/h
Armor: can withstand .50cal fire
Armament: Either 35mm Mantis or 30mm Skyranger
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: none
Armament:
30mm 2A42 autocannon
4x Konkurs ATGM
Max speed: about 100km/h
Armor: can withstand small arms fire
Armament: 2x 35mm Oerlikon
Max speed: 115km/h
Armor: Can protect from small arms fire
Armament: 30mm Bushmaster II
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
Armament: 30mm autocannon (possibly MK30-2)
Max speed: about 120km/h
Armor: can protect from 50. cal
Armament:
25mm KBA autocannon
5x 70mm FZ275 laser-guided rockets (More possibly stored inside)
Max speed: about 120km/h
Armor: can protect from 50. cal
Armament: 125mm 2A46
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor:
similiar to T-72AV
The tank also comes equipped with slightly modified engine and transmission
Armament:
120mm Crossbow mortar
12.7mm M2 Browning coaxial
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
APS: Iron Fist
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor:
slightly better than T-72M4
DYNA ERA can defeat tandem charges
Armament:
30mm autocannon
4x short range ground-to-air missiles
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
APS: Iron Fist
Armament
4x 23mm AZP-23
4x 9K333 Verba manpads
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
Armament:
Likely 25mm GAU-12
Likely 2x Stinger missiles (more stored inside)
Max speed: 120km/h
Armor: can protect from .50cal fire
Armament: 105mm cannon
Max speed: 120km/h
Armor: can protect from .50cal fire
Armament: 105mm cannon
Max speed: 130km/h
Armor: can protect from .50cal fire
Armament:
30mm 2A42
2x Konkurs or SPIKE ATGM (2 extra stored inside)
Max speed: 65km/h
Armor: same as regular BMP-2
Armament:
30mm 2A42
2x Konkurs and Spike ATGM, possibly even Stugna-P
(2 extra stored inside)
Max speed: 110km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
Armament:
30mm Bushmaster II
2x Spike-LR
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
APS: EFA
Armament:
30mm Bushmaster II
2x Spike-LR (2 extra stored inside)
Max speed: 70km/h
Armor: can protect from 30mm APFSDS
APS: Iron Fist
Armament:
30mm Bushmaster MK-44 S
2x Spike-LR2 ATGMs (+2 extra reloadable)
VIPER 300 drone launcher
Max speed: 100km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
APS: HARPIA
Armament: 3x 3M9 missiles per launcher unit (12 per battery of 4 MFUs)
Radar/command unit: 1S91 Surn
Max speed: about 50km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
Armament: 4x 5V55R missiles per MFU (16 per battery of 4 MFUs)
Radar/command unit: 5N63S
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 3x ASPIDE 2000 missiles per MFU (12x missiles per battery of 4 MFUs)
Radar/command unit: modernised 1S91 Surn
Max speed: about 50km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
Armament: 120mm CTG cannon
Max speed: 70km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
Armament: 120mm Rh-120 L/44A1
Max speed: 70km/h
Armor: can protect from .50cal fire (up to 25mm from front)
APS: Iron Fist
Armament: 120mm Hyundai WIA CN08 L/55
Max speed: 70km/h
Armor: How the hell am i supposed to know lol
Armament: 6x HISAR-O or HISAR-RF missiles (12 per baterry of 2 MFUs)
Radar: Retia RL-3DL and RL-3DM
Max speed: 110km/h
Armor: none
Armament:
8x Python-5-MR (16 per baterry of 2 MFUs)
or
I-Derby-LR missiles (with separate radar vehicle)
Radar: EL/M-2084 MMR
Max speed: 110km/h
Armor: none
It should be able to fire IR missiles independently of the radar vehicle, thanks to the Toplite EOS
IRL, the SPYDER battery consists of 3x LR MFUs and 1x SR MFU
Armament: 37mm Škoda A4 BETA
Max speed: 37km/h
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 37mm Škoda A4 BETA
Max speed: 37km/h
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 1x 44mm or 60mm cannon
Max speed: 25km/h
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 45mm 20K cannon
Max speed: 28km/h
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 76,2mm Model 1910
Max speed: 18km/h
Armor: max 6,5mm
Armament: 13.9mm Boys AT rifle
Max speed: 80km/h
Armor: max 14mm
Armament: 13.9mm Boys AT rifle
Max speed: 47km/h
Armor: max 10mm
Armament: 37mm A4 BETA cannon
Max speed: 54km/h
Armor: max 25mm
Armament: 37mm A4 BETA cannon
Max speed: 40km/h
Armor: max 25mm
Armament: 75mm L/24
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: unknown
Armament: 25x 105mm rockets
Max speed: 53km/h
Armor: max 15mm
Armament: 37mm Škoda A7
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 50mm
Pontoons can be removed before the match, similiarly to Ka-Chi in Japanese techtree. The tank would loose its amphibious capability, and otherwise play as a normal Pz. 38F
Armament: 2 cm Kw.K.38
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 8x 210mm RK 3 rockets
Max speed: 80km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 10,5 cm leFH43
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: max 60mm
Armament: 85mm vz.52
Max speed: 36km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 105mm H9 Howitzer
Max speed: about 60km/h
Armor: max 50mm
Armament: 240mm mortar
Max speed: 65-70km/h
Armor: likely comparable to ZSU-57-2
Armament: 150mm vz. 18 N
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: unknown
Armament: 152mm ML-20 cannon
Max speed: 80km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 75mm StuK 40 L/48
Max speed: 38km/h
Armor: max 80mm
Used for some time after the end of the war. Pictures come from Czechoslovak 1961 movie A Song About the Gray Pigeon
Armament: 85mm D-5S
Max speed: 47km/h
Armor: max 45mm
Armament: 32x 130mm RP 2 rockets (+64 reloadable)
Max speed: likely about 25-30km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 152mm howitzer
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: max 65mm
Armament: 85mm vz.44 (ZIS-S-53)
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: max 90mm
Armament: 32x 130mm rockets
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 32x 130mm rockets
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 120mm mortar
Max speed: 115km/h
Armor: can withstand small arms fire
Armament: rockets (might be Grad???)
Max speed: 100km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
Armament: 30mm PLdvK vz. 53
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: can withstand small arms fire
Armament: 88mm KwK 43
Max speed: 42km/h
Armor: max 185mm
Armament: 40x 122mm rockets (+ extra 40 reloadable)
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can withstand small arms fire
Armament: 8x LRU/M270 rockets
Max speed: 110km/h
Armor: can protect from small arms fire
Armament: 40x 122mm Grad rockets (+40 reloadable)
Max speed: 50km/h
Armor: none
Armament: 30mm 2A42
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can protect from .50 cal fire
Armament: 30mm 2A42
Max speed: 105km/h
Armor: can protect from .50 cal fire
Armament: 30mm 2A42
Max speed: 70km/h
Armor: can protect from .50 cal fire
Armament: 35mm MANTIS C-RAM
Radar: LÜR
Max speed: 100km/h
Armor: none
Separate radar/fire control vehicle is needed for the system to work
Armament: 105mm M68
Max speed: 48km/h
Armor: same base as M60 Patton + heavy ERA
ERA: NEXREARM (2nd gen ERA)
Armament: 125mm 2A46
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: similiar to T-72AV
Kontakt-1 ERA can´t defeat tandem charges
Armament: 125mm 2A46
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: same base as T-72M1 + heavy ERA
ERA: NEXREARM (2nd gen ERA)
Armament: 30mm Bushmaster II
Max speed: 100km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor:
490mm against HEAT
380mm against APFSDS
APS: EFA
This specific vehicle has been decomissioned long time ago, and is used only for testing. Its immobile, and it has a dummy gun. Still, EFA would install the exact same even on normal T-72M1
Armament: 125mm 2A46
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: same base as T-72M1 + ERA
Armament: 125mm 2A46
Max speed: 60km/h
Armor: better than T-72AV
Kontakt-1 ERA can´t defeat tandem charges
This modification comes with improved ERA coverage, retractable cope-cage, net and slat armor around the turret and back of the hull and an EW kit, which helps dealing with drones
Armament:
30mm Bushmaster II
2x Spike ATGM (+2 extra stored inside)
Max speed: 100km/h
Armor: can withstand fire from 14.5mm
Armament:
30mm Bushmaster or GTS-30/N
2 + 2 (reserve) Spike-LR ATGMs
Max speed: 103km/h
Armor: can protect from .50cal fire
30mm Bushmaster or GTS-30/N
2 + 2 (reserve) Spike-LR ATGMs
Max speed: over 100km/h
Armor: can protect from 14.5mm
Armament: 120mm Rh120 L/44
Max speed: 68km/h
Armor: same base as Leopard 2A4 + heavy ERA
ERA: NEXREARM (2nd gen ERA)
Armament: 120mm CN-120-26 F1
Max speed: 72km/h
Armor: same base as LECLERC + heavy ERA
ERA: NEXREARM (2nd gen ERA)
Armament: 125mm 2A46
Max speed: unknown, likely about the same/slightly lower than base T-72 not to waste range
Armor: same as base T-72M1
Electric tank. Increased torque at lower RPM, but fire to batteries cannot be put down
CV-90 Mk.IV: Changed from researchable to premium
ShPTK 40/75N: Changed from premium to researchable
Atypický tank Tatra: Changed from premium to researchable
Tatra T-III: Changed from premium to researchable
Sd.Kfz. 140/1: Changed from premium to researchable
Leopard 2A4: Rank changed to VII, BR changed to 10.7
IS-2 (1944): BR changed to 6.7
Leopard 2A8: BR changed to 12.7
T-72M2 Moderna early: BR changed to 10.3
T-72M2 Moderna late: BR changed to 10.7
T-72M1-A: BR changed to 10.3
T-72 Savan-15: BR changed to 10.0
T-55AM2 DYNA: BR changed to 9.0
T-55AM2 Kladivo: BR changed to 9.0
T-55AM2B Kladivo: BR changed to 9.0
T-54AM2 Kladivo: BR changed to 9.0
Merkava Mk.I: BR changed to 9.3
T-72MP: BR changed to 10.3
Zetor Wolfdog 120mm: BR changed to 12.0
Rank I: 57 researchable vehicles + 24 premium vehicles
Rank II: 41 researchable vehicles + 16 premium vehicles
Rank III: 37 researchable vehicles + 21 premium vehicles
Rank IV: 39 researchable vehicles + 21 premium/squadron vehicles
Rank V: 45 researchable vehicles + 17 premium/event vehicles
Rank VI: 50 researchable vehicles + 20 premium/event vehicles
Rank VII: 33 researchable vehicles + 14 premium/event/squadron vehicles
Rank VIII: 14 researchable vehicles + 2 premium vehicles
Total vehicle count: 451 vehicles (making it by far the largest techtree in game, having 3x more vehicles than even the largest trees)
273 fully indigenous (I.E. developed and produced in Czech/Slovak factories) (61%)
101 upgrades of foreign vehicles (mainly of licenses) (22%)
77 copy-paste (vehicles that would play same as their in-game counterparts) (17%)
(of that, 32 (7%) are completely new (not in the game yet))
Special thanks goes to Pattern, thanks to whom ive found majority of the new vehicles
Both were if I recall correctly only Krupp projects, only if the vehicles got in to production they’d be produced at Pilsen plant.
Same with other projects that I am not mentioning
Thanks for the insight. I wasnt completely sure whenever there was some direct Czech/Bohemian participation on it or not. Still, considering it wouldve propably been build by Škoda plant in Pilsen, I think it does belong in the extended proposal, as it uses Czechoslovak chassis and basically the only requirement for a vehicle to be included in this version of the techtree is, well, pretty much nothing. As long as it uses but a single Czech-made bolt (or, probably would´ve), its good to go :D
