Czech Gripens A/B - Could be added to German tree

They have best SPAA Britain gonna need them as sub tree (combat proven too)
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It would be pretty funny if they got away with that.

Iirc the American intervention is mostly alleged, there were US visitors who saw it but no proof it was pressure by them that stopped the project

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Too bad I’m involved in some dirty IAI buisness and know there is a L-39 being tested in Israel with several systems that were not a part of the original plane.


Here it is, with an Israeli flag on it’s tail, on Ben-Gurion Airport.

Of course they are, but nowdays the closest ally of the Visegrads is… Israel. They have become a little desolutioned with Germany and the USA after what happened in Ukraine, because they were kinda forgotten about by the NATO superpowers.

Not anymore.

And turrets, and UAVs, and even a radar or two for their reserve Shilkas.
And again, I don’t want ANY Polish vehicle to be added under Israel, only those who were made with Israeli aid and technology (3-6 vehicles I think).

It ruins the Visegrad/Warsaw Pact TT idea, not the Italian TT. I am glad to have Hungary in the Italian TT, it fits it and help reinforce a nation in much need.

Thank you for this info, appreciate it.

How exactly, haven’t really heard much about Israeli and Visegrad nation co-operation that much recently?

By UAV’s you mean the Orbiter right?

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It’s mostly Czechia actually, we made various weapon systems for their AFVs, gave them some small arms, some UAVs, some SPYDERs, lots upon lots of SPIKEs and Python variants and also some fancy FC systems. But the real deal is the Striker, and also the strategic cooperation - sharing secrets, tactics and military excercises. Israel trained some special units of the Visegrads, signed many economical trade treaties, a couple military treaties and was asked to form an allience with them (2022). The Visegrads are also among the only supporters Israel has left in the free world. Czechia and Slovakia even showed interest in buying Merkavas before the war. Hungary is among Israel’s most reliable allies, and had purchased a lot of equipment that is yet classified from IDF reserve.

You’re welcome, my friend.

Yes, and the future Gryf.

No, just, no.

  • CZ/Slovaki tree deserves to be its own tree for one.

  • For seconds; you now have the most powerful jet in the game, the EF-2K

Not really enough substance without poland there, even then gaijin is reluctant to release another israel since new nations struggle to draw players

There most definitely is, but sure…

Israeli TT has the issue of the merkava’s being the fattest pile of dogshit in the game, heavy, slow, and doesn’t even have its real armor (no viable top tier). And you have to grind another TT just to get to it (“Must reach rank V of USA, France, etc.”)

Well feel free to tell the copy/paste whiners the reason for another ZSU-57/T-54/T55M/T-72M1/shilka and so on…

Not my problem tbh.

Don’t make baseless suggestions then :)

So we are ignoring the countless Czechoslovakia modifications to vehicles that make them nothing like their base vehicle? Let alone their Air Force?

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  • L-129/L-39

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Well we don’t have an L-39 in game yet and the Moderna is pretty similar to the czech modifications

This is a Czechoslovakia TT though, so Moderna would be there too…

dang bro a whole 2 vehicles extremely similar to stuff we already have, totally enough for a tech tree

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I’ll let you dwell on the fact that this tt will have the same amount of content as israel but almost entirely consisting of USSR/eastern tech, no one except czechs or slovakians would be happy with this coming to the game

you’re aware Germany only had the mig29g for months while the fox3s meta was alive and well? and how is that even relevant

Love the sarcasm as you casually ignore the numerous other vehicles they have.

Like the 155 SpGH DANA.

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And a phantom with some AMRAAMs as it’s best jet to compete against f-15C/E, F-16s, Gripens, Flankers and so on