Armour kits can be more easily removed than engine swaps.
What?
I’m just asking didn’t they make armour panels that can be added to the hull.
The Plasan kit was on LEPs from 2003 and carried over to 235s
On Scimitar it was mainly perforated steel screens on the hull. Plus a couple of non-perforated panels covering the frontal arc - behind the headlamps, that panel that has the registration painted on it, and in front of the driver’s hatch down to the transmission cover.
Turret also had extra armour panels. You can usually see when a vehicle has them on the turret because some of the panels have a little extra overhang by the fire extinguishers.
IIRC the non-perforated stuff on the turret and frontal hull was a layer of composite though.
Spartan’s kit was composite panels all over, and those were also on the Scim Mk.2.
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I see so it’ll add quite a bit of protection to it.
Couple that with the increase in thickness it’s due to get it’ll be pretty tanky against other ifvs.
Is the new inlet indicative of the uprated 235hp engine? Trying to determine whether the final model of Striker had the 190 or 235.
Any info on SWIG would be great, I’m trying to get a suggestion through.
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The inlet is indicative of a LEP. The big square duct on top of the inlet appears to be indicative of 235s - it was originally just a small dust cover
No Striker 235s but there were Striker LEPs like this one
Striker was retired from the British Army in 2005 after Javelin was introduced. Some years before 235 was carried out.
The deployment of British forces to Helmand from 2006 was the impetus for up-rating the CVR(t) drivetrain - they had pretty terrible availability rates in the high altitude, hot and dusty, off-road conditions on Op. Herrick. Formation Reconnaissance had largely ended up ditching them for Jackal until the upgrades were carried out.
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Ah fair enough, I didn’t actually look into the year for 235 so yes the Strikers were removed from service in 2005 and it appears mostly disposed of by 2007.
Still looking into SWIG as sources disagree between SACLOS and ACLOS operation, though ACLOS guidance was demonstrated at RARDE in 1988 and is reputedly the tech on which SWIG was based (18.00 to 19.35).
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060035222
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Very happy to report that my suggestion for FV102 Striker SWIG was successful, many thanks to the Suggestion Mods who have been industriously processing a lot of pending suggestions in the last week.
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From Gszabi’s datamine:
Scimitar:
- upper hull front: 35 → 63 mm, now volumetric
- lower hull front: 20 → 63 mm, now volumetric
- hull sides: 20 → 32 mm
- upper hull rear: 20 → 38 mm, now volumetric
- lower hull rear: 20 → 23 mm
- horizontal “frame” around the hull: 12.7 → 6 mm
- hull roof in the front: 25 → 20 mm
- hull roof vents: 20 mm aluminium alloy 7039 → 10 mm RHA
- the entire turret: 41 → 50 mm, now volumetric
- mantlet: now volumetric
- armour around the optic in the mantlet: 38 → 25 mm, now volumetric
- commander’s hatch: 20 → 30 mm
- gunner’s hatch: 20 → 30 mm
Scimmie armour buff(?)
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It would be a shame to do all this work and not add some new scimitars in the same update… come on gaijin
nonono,
Scorpion 90
Its the same hull
I do wonder how gaijin got the hull front so massively wrong by such a huge margin…
I get 5-10mm wrong, okay, fair, but 43mm difference?
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eh, the raw numbers are a little misleading most of the time.
I’ll post some comparison images later when I’m free Got a new book arriving today, gotta re-read the last 16
Yes before the buff it was actually unable to stop the bullets it was designed to defeat.
It will now be immune to most auto cannons at its br even apfsds 30mm at range. From the front at least. I’m so happy they fixed this it was one of the oldest CVRT reports I made.
12.7mm (1/2 inch), 25mm (~1 inch) and 20mm (nice round number in between) just seems to get used as a base thickness for things when they don’t know it’s actual thickness
At 20mm, Warrior turret is thinner than it is IRL by a significant margin, but there’s no public data on how much by. 20mm is enough for it to be bulletproof and shrapnel-proof, and do the job of a personnel carrier. So it’s a fair assumption that it’s at least 20mm thick.
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Mostly a nothing-burger to a slight nerf, sorry for getting yall’s hopes up
Hey @Smin1080p_WT Given the armour rework for the Scimmie has opened a new armour hole over the NVDs, could we get the NVD door closed? Just to provide a lil more amour in the area.
Also ask Smin if he can tell the devs they messed it up and made the turret armour line of sight equivalent thickness instead of constructional thickness.