The Scimitar and Striker got their Brake forces reduced and Neutral steer ratios increased
They are now practically fixed
And people say going on the internet and bitching about stuff doesn’t fix anything!
Incredible, really looking forward to trying out the changes and very happy to see that the neutral steering was also added!
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Here’s the Belgian variant of the FV102 CVR(T) Striker. @l2ulan
I swear this suggestion was pending for quite some time. I almost was a full year after the original post:
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Great work, added to the list. Belgian Striker would be a good candidate for addition to the game as the current British Striker model is very similar.
Correction; top speed is 50 mph (written as 80 km/h in the Belgian manual).
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Thanks, I saw several values so I didn’t know which one to use, I went with one supplied by the Brussels Royal military museum:
If the manual says 50 mph, then I’ll use that one.
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Irish
Timoney ARV Mk.1
Timoney designed, built and tested two prototype of the Mk 1 in Ireland. The vehicle subsequently went into production in Tanzania, under a technology transfer agreement, for their armed forces. During the transfer phase, a number of Tanzanian engineers were brought to Ireland for training.
The Mk 1, as built for Tanzania, was fitted with the two-man turret from the Alvis Scorpion CVR(T), in use by both the Irish and Tanzanian armed forces, and fitted with a 76 mm gun.
Panhard AML with Scimitar turret
Jordanian
SOFEX2016
SOFEX2016
I really don’t remember what was done, but it was shown at exhibition. So that something was upgraded.
Scorpion with 2A72
SOFEX2006
2A72 & Kornet ATGM
SOFEX 2008
2A72 & Kornet ATGM & 3rd Gen Thermal in Panoramic sight
JRESCO (Jordan Russian Electronic System co)
Unmanned turret
2A72 & Kornet ATGM, thermal
South Africa
Denel Scorpion Weapon Carrier
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ooo thanks, I’ll add them in tomorrow after I wake up
That’s would be more evil than the fox lmao, the AML is so quiet
Deffo the 76
Looks to be a Belgian Scimitar turret going by the smokes
Wonder if they added the 20mm
Would be a nice 6.0 spaag with that 82 degrees a second traverse
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How can i distinguish EM235 from LEP??
Is this EM235?
Also Does anyone have EM235 and Scimitar Mk.2 without Plasan and Bar armor?
Because i have only one armor-less Mk.2
Hard to do externally really, without considering the TES fit on them. What makes it a 235 is internal.
If a photo is in Afghanistan after 2009 (IIRC Op. Herrick 10 to Op. Herrick 14 when Mk.2 arrived), it’s definitely a 235. Earlier photos of Scimitars in theatre, you will see the ECM equipment is a bit more ad-hoc, and in general don’t have the two box-shaped emitters on the front. Anywhere else, you wouldn’t know without checking the Reg No. against ones you know to be a 235.
Below is a Scimitar 235 07FD04 without all the ECM kit, photographed on Salisbury Plain in 2011. It retains the holder for the Driver’s Vision Enhancer (thermal imager) that was part of the 235’s TES fit. But otherwise it looks the same as virtually any Scimitar LEP
So the DVE would perhaps be the only external indicator. Ed:- an expanded air box for the Cummins engine intake on the side of the hull also seems to be an indicator for EM235 CVR(t)s, over regular CVR(t) LEPs.
In some cases you might also find when looking at the front of the vehicle, that the headlights are spaced further apart, or the two tool boxes above the tracks are smaller
06FD54
Demobbed hull before it was sold to a collector. Can see the headlamps are positioned almost on top of the towing hooks, rather than fully between them
And in Afghanistan in 2011 (in the background)
That would have been to accommodate the big electronics box in the middle that was part of the ECM fit instead of the usual middle tool box. But on the previous photo of 07FD04 they are back to the normal arrangement.
Near enough in terms of the date of the ECM fit, but 06FD57 is ATDU’s Scimitar and lacks a number of things that were on the fielded 235s. Namely the mine protection plate.
The last photo with 06FD46 in Afghanistan, is a 235
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Thank you.
Also, i think your picture of pre-LEP Scimitar SPIRE/ESPIRE
has an air intake, wich means its could be LEP ESPIRE.
I found a really pre-LEP SPIRE/ESPIRE without air intake
This photo?
Think that’s a roll-mat on the side, rather than the LEP intake.
Also it’s still got the Jaguar hull’s engine deck louvres (like the ones in your photos), so I’m pretty sure it’s not a Cummins engine in there.
The ones in your photo do have the original bolted-on transmission cover though, rather than the later hinged type seen in my pic.
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Consulted some photos I have of demobbed Scimitars I know to be ex-British Army 235 hulls, and where the LEP inlet was still present they have this enlarged duct mod made to the top of the inlet.
The mod is also present on some of the vehicles we sold to Latvia. So that probably confirms at least some of them were upgraded to 235hp
I guess that shows what a Scimitar 235 with no Plasan armour or bar armour looks like
Ed:- Found one clear image of a Latvian Spartan that also has a similar enlarged duct modification. It’s consistent with the Odin-turreted Spartan 235s, and the Spartan Mk.2s that were on Herrick. This style of duct is likewise featured on Scimitar Mk.2 that is based on Spartan 235. So it’s very likely an indicator of a vehicle with the up-rated EM235 drivetrain.
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Doesn’t LEP also have bolt on high hardness armour panels?
Armour kits can be more easily removed than engine swaps.
What?
I’m just asking didn’t they make armour panels that can be added to the hull.
The Plasan kit was on LEPs from 2003 and carried over to 235s
On Scimitar it was mainly perforated steel screens on the hull. Plus a couple of non-perforated panels covering the frontal arc - behind the headlamps, that panel that has the registration painted on it, and in front of the driver’s hatch down to the transmission cover.
Turret also had extra armour panels. You can usually see when a vehicle has them on the turret because some of the panels have a little extra overhang by the fire extinguishers.
IIRC the non-perforated stuff on the turret and frontal hull was a layer of composite though.
Spartan’s kit was composite panels all over, and those were also on the Scim Mk.2.
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I see so it’ll add quite a bit of protection to it.
Couple that with the increase in thickness it’s due to get it’ll be pretty tanky against other ifvs.
Is the new inlet indicative of the uprated 235hp engine? Trying to determine whether the final model of Striker had the 190 or 235.
Any info on SWIG would be great, I’m trying to get a suggestion through.
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The inlet is indicative of a LEP. The big square duct on top of the inlet appears to be indicative of 235s - it was originally just a small dust cover
No Striker 235s but there were Striker LEPs like this one
Striker was retired from the British Army in 2005 after Javelin was introduced. Some years before 235 was carried out.
The deployment of British forces to Helmand from 2006 was the impetus for up-rating the CVR(t) drivetrain - they had pretty terrible availability rates in the high altitude, hot and dusty, off-road conditions on Op. Herrick. Formation Reconnaissance had largely ended up ditching them for Jackal until the upgrades were carried out.
Ah fair enough, I didn’t actually look into the year for 235 so yes the Strikers were removed from service in 2005 and it appears mostly disposed of by 2007.
Still looking into SWIG as sources disagree between SACLOS and ACLOS operation, though ACLOS guidance was demonstrated at RARDE in 1988 and is reputedly the tech on which SWIG was based (18.00 to 19.35).
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060035222