Cv90105 tml

Would you like to see the CV90105 TML back in-game?
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Welcome to the suggestion for the CV90105 TML! If you’ve been playing War Thunder for a few years, this may look familiar, and it indeed was in-game until the “Drone Age” update in 2022, where it was replaced with the current model we have in-game due to some historical inaccuracies. These are notably it having a stabilizer and commander’s thermals, which it was not fitted with in real life, though it did have an option for a stabilizer should a buyer want one. However, I think with its inaccuracies corrected, it could still be a decent addition for the Swedish tree, and bring back an old face to the game.

History

An early CV90, 1980s.

Developed in the 1980s, the CV90 was created as a vehicle capable of fulfilling the tactical and strategic needs of its users, while remaining modular enough to be used for nearly any role, in any environment. This it did well, being fitted with a variety of autocannons even early on in its development, ranging from 25 mm cannons to the famous Bofors 40 mm. It entered service with Sweden in 1994, and would see deliveries to the Norwegian Army the same year.

The CV90105 TML showcased at Eurosatory, 1994.

In keeping with the multirole use for the chassis, the designer of the CV90, Hägglunds, worked with the French company GIAT to conceptualize a light tank variant of the CV90 using existing components. The result was the CV90105 TML, a vehicle that used GIAT’s TML 105 turret combined with Hägglunds’ CV90 chassis. The TML 105 turret housed a 105 mm G2 gun, designed to be compatible with NATO 105 mm tank ammunition. It was paired with a SOPTAC 11 gunner’s sight with thermal imaging, and used the Galix self-defense system, with 7× smoke grenades on each side of the turret, four at the front, and three at the rear. The turret came with an option for a stabilizer, but it seems to have not been fitted to the prototype produced.

The CV90105 TML was showcased in June of 1994 at the Eurosatory arms fair, and underwent testing, but ultimately no customers would ever show interest in it. This wasn’t the end for the CV90105 concept though. In 2014, incidentally 20 years after the original version being showcased, a new CV90105 equipped with the Belgian Cockerill company’s XC-8 105HP turret was showcased at Eurosatory. However, with a little over a decade having passed since then, it appears the revitalized CV90105 is to meet the same fate as its predecessor, with no countries expressing interest thus far.

The CV90105 equipped with the Cockerill XC-8 105HP turret presented at Eurosatory, 2014.

Specifications

cv90105-64204

  • Mass: 21.9 t
  • Crew: 4
  • Length: 6.5 m
  • Height: 2.9 m
  • Width: 3.1 m
  • Main armament: 105 mm G2
  • Main armament ammunition: 40 rounds, 12 ready to fire
  • Secondary armament: 7.62 mm Ksp 58 machine gun
  • Secondary armament ammunition: 1,250 rounds
  • Defensive armament: 14× smoke grenade launchers
  • Transmission: Perkins X 300-5 automatic
  • Engine: 550 hp Scania DSI14
  • Maximum speed: 70 km/h
  • Steering: Hydrostatic
Sources
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+1 for sure, maybe tech-tree this time.
also, your gallery spoiler is empty

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Agreed, it needs to come back, shouldn’t be banished due to incompetence in its implementation.

Fix it up, put it in the tech tree after the Ikv 91-105 and were good!

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Thank you for the reminder, I really miss not being able to edit posts after they’re submitted for review.

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Facts

But if I am not mistaken its got no Stabilizer so maybe before!

It was sold with the option of adding a stabilizer iirc.

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Pray it comes with it when they reintroduce it!

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Absolutely. It never should’ve been removed, it should’ve just been fixed to its real-life state and lowered to an appropriate BR. But since it has been removed, might as well put it in the tech tree.

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You have two separate vehicles in your post depicted in your gallery and this is the stabilized version no doubt in my mind. Based on the turret feature, especially the sights, and laser warning receiver this is the same turret of the Vextra 105 currently in-game, where did you find this picture? I just want to see the left side of the turret fully to confirm but awesome find!

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hey i remember this guy

I forget where I found it, but I’ll remove it from the post.

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don’t keep it cause it cool

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I believe this photo is fake. It looks like someone’s photoshopped a digital render of the turret to replace the actual turret. Here is a photo of the TML 105 (early) turret in an identical setting with an identical chassis being used:

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I had my suspicions about that edited photo because it looked a little too good, and as it turns out it is. The original you posted comes from a sales brochure from GIAT and Hägglunds.

Spoiler


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Suggestion passed to the developers for consideration.

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