At this point it’s not really a balance decision for the Cv90s, it’s just gaijoobles not wanting to model the laser cruise control.
Huh? I didn’t say the tracking was a balance decision.
I meant more along the lines of they aren’t giving us Ahead because there’s no reason to without air tracking, there’s no logical balance reason not to give us Ahead rounds
This is the logical reason…
Without air tracking, an ahead round of this size, is completely meaningless, as in there is no actual use for them.
Yes… That’s my point… It’s not a balance reason, it’s a logic reason, why add a small Ahead round if it can’t be used.
Again, it’s not a balance reason, it’s a gaijin not modeling something reason.
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Ew, it’s ugly and I love it
I think in terms of silly, that goes to this goober
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The module I was referring to being on both the freccia and cv90mk4 was the JANUS system (the sphere used as commander optics). This system can be the only explination of the Freccia’s target tracking in game as it functions against targets even if only the janus system can see them.
It is advertized as having “Automatic 360° panoramic image scanning with motion detection,” “Automatic video tracker,” as well as an “UAS/USV/Air-Surface fast target tracking” Which taken together seems to indicate it can find and track things in the way the BAE videos of the cv90mkiv insist it can.
Note that the moderators of the bug report forum choose not to recognize a difference between the modern UTAAS sights you refereed to and the older ones with kinematic tracking.
https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/0/Janus+D+FCS_(EL00041)_NR.pdf?t=1769604362086
https://electronics.leonardo.com/documents/16277707/18401526/Janus_T_LQ_mm07832_.pdf?t=1694701996635 -The head image of this brochure is one mounted on a freccia as depicted in game.
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Now that is probably the best piece of evidence i’ve seen so far. All reports i’ve seen for the CV90 Mk.IV has had to do with the UTAAS and not the JANUS.
I do recommend doing a report for the tracking on the JANUS system to see if that might make them give it tracking :)
UTAAS, both old AND new, use kinematic tracking. It still needs the module for optical tracking with that system as far as i know.
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Trying to figure out what “CMS” means in this context:
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But that report also doesn’t mention aim tracking so i wonder why it got closed. Wouldn’t it then function the same as the IRST on the Ozelot (like pseudo radar)?
Combat management system perhaps?
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Yes but no. We don’t have such feature in game.
I already did the report, they did not give it any consideration. I came here because I believe they are just working backward from the decision that it should not have target tracking (claiming that no add on system gave the cv90 more capability beyond the first utaas sight) and took the balance you mentioned to be the thing they are working backward from.
Their central claim is that target tracking cannot be added to a vehicle unless there is specific video of the fire control system locking on to a target in the way spaa’s do in war thunder. The simple fact that the fcs can identify, track, and direct fire against a target (even with the arbitrary capability of a digital system) is not enough.
I was under the impression that the AA upgrade for the UTAAS included a millimeter wave radar, as that is an add on that was depicted being used by a cv90mk3 in one of the bae videos.
How would it differ from the Ozelot?
I don’t think this is the case.
I have yet seen any direct evidence claiming optical tracking with the FCS on the CV90 (with the exception of the LVKV which had a technical demonstrator that expressly had the optical tracker module installed)
That is on some of the newer turrets, not the early model prototype we have in game. It’s also not exclusive to the Mk.IV , the one Sweden has ordered is a Mk.III for example:
I’m confused here, what do you mean by “optical tracking?”
Because the janus system brochure was very explicit in stating that it can search, track, and direct fire against, airborn targets, partially by sending the target track to the vehicles fire control system. I do not comprehend how this is not a claim that the optical device is tracking targets.
Keep in mind, if you are saying it cannot you are disagreeing with the implementation of the freccia vehicles which use the same system and are depicted as being able to track targets.
This part, where did it say that? That is the part we’ve been missing.