It is up to the customer to choose Spike or Akeron. Both fit.
But yea I see your point about Gaijin there.
I highly doubt it happening but one way i see them adding it is as a modification where you start with the spike and research the Akeron MP
probably not, maybe for a later CV90 version but you know, adding a new ATGM is too much work.
As far as I can see, the only agreement or rather a letter of intent has been signed between MBDA France and SAAB. To continue development of the Akeron signalling that this is the current missile of choice for the Swedish armed forces, even having named it RBS 58 in Swedish service.
Though we are also in the MERSEUS programme together with the french and Belgians to further develop a next generation missile for Europe, this indicates very much that Sweden has stepped away from the spike system in favor of the Akeron for now, at least untill something comes from the MERSEUS project.
A great argument for AKERON in general, but not so much for a vehicle with the 50mm canon and AKERON at the same time as Sweden has ordered the 35mm variant.
In general though its going to be really hard to tell the difference between Spike LR and AKERON when mounted in the vehicle as they look VERY similar unless there is a closeup image.
True, I don’t have anything that explicitly tells if the two systems are mounted on the same platform, I would hazard a guess that it has been tested as to be a viable option for further sales though I’ve no documents to prove this.
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Come to think of it, i don’t think i’ve seen the actual 50mm canon shown mounted. What i previously thought was the 50mm seems to be the 35mm showcase version. Timestamped video when the BAE platform manager says it is the 35mm: (https://youtu.be/Wx006Tk9kds?si=qLojFKHguA0fD3is&t=539)
Maybe not, but at the same time he does state that it’s a quick change between calibers and it has already been tested extensively
As far as i know/was told from a guy who works in FMI (The Danish Ministry of Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organisation) the two systems are interchangeable not exactly sure how but he mentioned something about the rail it sits on and could not go into details (he is under NDA)
E: I think it would be alittle like the picatinny rail system but larger
Yeah, “quick change” is a relative term though. I’m guessing it’s on the order of a few hours/one day instead of having to remodel half the turret for weeks XD
Seems reasonable to have it so that the system can be changed the day before a planned operation depending on what is expected to be encountered.
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If i have understood things correctly it’s the XM913 that the CV9050 might use. Since the 35mm is the Bushmaster III i assume that the 50mm is also a Bushmaster.
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Yes exactly
Im pretty sure the one in that video is the 50mm as its the one from an expo whete there was a sign with information but dont quote me on this
Weird that he says 35mm then lol :P but hey, wouldn’t be the first time someone misspoke x)
Also, the 50mm seem to use the same breach as the 35mm? The cartridges are the same size:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dca9WTu1syY) (Image from 3:10)
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Also, wow, from 4:30 onward he talks about the chain gun in comparison to a gas driven one and mentions “Even if there is a misfire the chain will just kick that round out and go to the next one […] and recently we’ve done a test on one of our other chain guns recently and it fired 10.000 rounds continuously through it without stoppage”
Like??? wow.
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In the video the representative clearly stated that the vehicle mounted a 35mm gun but that it was possibly to quickly exchange it for a 50mm gun as well as the 50 having been tested.
Also strange that it would require a new gun as I can swear I’ve seen/heard the 50mm supershot as a squeezeboore type of munition, significantly increasing the muzzle velocity /penetrative power at the expense of barrel wear.
Yes the difference is the powder charge and projectile itself is bigger (higher “neck” on the cartridge itself) on the 50mm
Yeah, look at that, I might not be totally of the rails here with my “back-in-the-head” thoughts that the 50 being a squeezeboore instead of an entirely new gun/ammunition scenario.
Makes some sense using squeezeboore anti-armir munitions and standard sized 35mm anti-aircraft/infantry pre-programmed munitions.
Trying to “squeeze” out every possible velocity of an anti-armor round seems plausible.
See what I did there, I can make word puns too.
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Squeezebore is long absolete, nowadays we use discarding sabot for the same purpose.
As you can see there’s nothing “squeezy” about 50mm supershot, it’s just a elongated and straight-walled 35mm casing with more space inside for propellants.
That’s my idea of thinking as well, but on the other hand the Squeezeboore 50 is what ive ready about. Perhaps the ones writing that article had a misunderstanding of the ammunition type, I don’t know, yet that’s what I’ve read.
Mind you this was years ago and perhaps the 50mm squeeze was just an idea of how a possible 35/50 munition could be developed, wether it had any merit or not versus other 35/50 types is not my perogative.
I think regardless of how it works the cartridge will be in the same dimentions of the 35
Yeah, unless of course we can find evidence of a 50mm gun, which seems to odd.
I mean, we get the 50mm supershot but at the same time we’ve seen and heard of a 50mm gun.
Just now Inthis video he clearly states that the 35 can be exchanged for a 50mm, that clearly indicates these are 2 different guns.