As far as i know/was told from a guy who works in FMI (The Danish Ministry of Defence Acquisition and Logistics Organisation) the two systems are interchangeable not exactly sure how but he mentioned something about the rail it sits on and could not go into details (he is under NDA)
E: I think it would be alittle like the picatinny rail system but larger
Yeah, “quick change” is a relative term though. I’m guessing it’s on the order of a few hours/one day instead of having to remodel half the turret for weeks XD
Seems reasonable to have it so that the system can be changed the day before a planned operation depending on what is expected to be encountered.
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If i have understood things correctly it’s the XM913 that the CV9050 might use. Since the 35mm is the Bushmaster III i assume that the 50mm is also a Bushmaster.
Yes exactly
Im pretty sure the one in that video is the 50mm as its the one from an expo whete there was a sign with information but dont quote me on this
Weird that he says 35mm then lol :P but hey, wouldn’t be the first time someone misspoke x)
Also, the 50mm seem to use the same breach as the 35mm? The cartridges are the same size:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dca9WTu1syY) (Image from 3:10)
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Also, wow, from 4:30 onward he talks about the chain gun in comparison to a gas driven one and mentions “Even if there is a misfire the chain will just kick that round out and go to the next one […] and recently we’ve done a test on one of our other chain guns recently and it fired 10.000 rounds continuously through it without stoppage”
Like??? wow.
In the video the representative clearly stated that the vehicle mounted a 35mm gun but that it was possibly to quickly exchange it for a 50mm gun as well as the 50 having been tested.
Also strange that it would require a new gun as I can swear I’ve seen/heard the 50mm supershot as a squeezeboore type of munition, significantly increasing the muzzle velocity /penetrative power at the expense of barrel wear.
Yes the difference is the powder charge and projectile itself is bigger (higher “neck” on the cartridge itself) on the 50mm
Yeah, look at that, I might not be totally of the rails here with my “back-in-the-head” thoughts that the 50 being a squeezeboore instead of an entirely new gun/ammunition scenario.
Makes some sense using squeezeboore anti-armir munitions and standard sized 35mm anti-aircraft/infantry pre-programmed munitions.
Trying to “squeeze” out every possible velocity of an anti-armor round seems plausible.
See what I did there, I can make word puns too.
Squeezebore is long absolete, nowadays we use discarding sabot for the same purpose.
As you can see there’s nothing “squeezy” about 50mm supershot, it’s just a elongated and straight-walled 35mm casing with more space inside for propellants.
That’s my idea of thinking as well, but on the other hand the Squeezeboore 50 is what ive ready about. Perhaps the ones writing that article had a misunderstanding of the ammunition type, I don’t know, yet that’s what I’ve read.
Mind you this was years ago and perhaps the 50mm squeeze was just an idea of how a possible 35/50 munition could be developed, wether it had any merit or not versus other 35/50 types is not my perogative.
I think regardless of how it works the cartridge will be in the same dimentions of the 35
Yeah, unless of course we can find evidence of a 50mm gun, which seems to odd.
I mean, we get the 50mm supershot but at the same time we’ve seen and heard of a 50mm gun.
Just now Inthis video he clearly states that the 35 can be exchanged for a 50mm, that clearly indicates these are 2 different guns.
35/50mm are the same gun, you just swap out the barrel and a couple other parts.
Alrighty then, so it’s basically the same system just a bit of a hotswap shenanigans.
then all we need to figure out if this 50mm change has been tested alongside the Akeron, as we already know both have been tested independently from each other.
I again would find it highly unlikely these tests have not been carried, if not for the export market at the very least.
I hope Sweden continues with a new 40mm for the future CV 90s.
So do I, it’s an iconic Bofors weapon, and I mean the french,Germans and the U.S is bringing the calibre back into the spotlight after a decade of everyone but the Swedes thinking it was not enough of a shift in munition size to power to be worth it.
They might!
I believe that cased telescoped ammunition is the future, and that the 40mm CTC has more potential than chainguns like Bushmaster
It also helps that CTA is a Nexter/BAE joint venture, and BAE is the parent company of Hägglunds who makes the CV90
BAE’s entry in the FRES program was basically just that, a CV90 with a new turret fitted with 40mm CTC.
Unfortunately it lost out to AJAX, and we all know how that turned out
Yea really disappointed we got the the 30mm Version basically just rip-off puma with no benefits
Im still hoping that the lack of needed/accurate stuff added for the sweedish tt in the past updates will lead to either a new subtree Denmark/norway. Or a larger addition with more vehicles to it.
I always found this funny, considering that even MBTs aren’t immune to 30mm ammunition at 500 meters.
The 30mm’s rate of fire is so high that the whole “stanag lv x protection” thing is a joke.
