Gaijin and the mainland Chinese community don’t want you to have an alternative flag option that only YOU can see if YOU change it for yourself.
Its quite sad that they have yet to make an official statement regarding this. Like why remove the flag? Let me change the country flag to whatever I want. Its not like other players can see what options I pick unless I stream or upload videos even then its my personal choice and not a reflection of Gaijins views or political opinions.
Leave it to Gaijin and extension the mainland Chinese players to turn something small into a bigger issue.
Like no one is forcing mainland Chinese players to use that flag. Its an OPTION for those that WANT TO USE IT.
The official reason is that ROC vehicles in War Thunder are currently represented by the ROC army flag instead of the ROC national flag, and Gaijin has made it policy to not allow army/navy flags in the flag customisation.
The real reason is likely something else which has been debated to death in this thread already.
Every in-game operator deserves to be represented by their own flag, and I think the same standards and rules should apply to all operators so that none are discriminated against. In the 1314 posts in this thread I have yet to hear a convincing non-political argument for why ROC flag shouldn’t be in the game.
I can’t speak for everyone else here obviously, but I think that there should be a level of consistency in the game that is broken by not having the flag.
The way it is now, they arbitrarily decided to only have the ROCA flag for ROC vehicles, making them not have any national representation in the selection. Using the same concept some other nations like the Republic of South Vietnam or the Weimar Republic are also missing despite being in game. This sets a bad precedent for the future as well, since now if a nation happens to be added with a military flag, it won’t be represented.
This can easily be fixed by just always consistently using national flags to represent each nation.
This shouldn’t have political implications either, considering pre-1948 PRC vehicles also get a national flag for a nation that has yet to be founded, meaning it doesn’t matter if you believe ROC is a nation or not for them as a faction to use the flag that ROC used as an undisputed nation during WWII for example.
What would add to the discussion is some feedback from the devs on the matter. They had a good opportunity with the recent Community update post, but it was not mentioned?
Yeah, I get that part but all the attention this one’s getting is kinda weird. Only a handful of players in this thread actually play the Chinese TT extensively and the rest are just ranting about something that they probably’ll never use even if it was added.
The stuff I see here is exactly the kind of fanaticism I saw in the Chinese community regarding the VT4 thing back in September. Ironically some people I see here were also whining about how the ROCA is getting their own Abrams and Apache.
Yeah, players who do own ROCA vehicles and people from the region should get a say in this, but I’d also say this thread is mostly filled with western busybodies. How about we just mind our own business and let the controversy die down so Gaijin can finally fix it without getting into deeper crap.
If we stop discussing the issue, nothing will be fixed. It’s better to keep the discussion going. It’s the best way to possibly get a Gaijin answer. If this flag matters to you, then — “no matter where you come from” — you can freely share your view on this thread.
Ah, I see you’re a man of taste, I get why you want the flag, and I have to say I do too for the same reason, albeit I’m a bit less dedicated. Then again, I’m just quite surprised by how many users are ranting on this thread, and I find it hard to believe that they all play the Chinese TT seriously.
well since its no gameplay related thing where you actually should know the br/vehicle you are talking about this topic only requires to see double standards to complain. nothing else…
well thats also partially on the response since many users just like to poke into the emotional stuff to troll etc. So the topic would have see less attention if there werent so many emotional takes on similiar stuff before. and the topic is ridiculous since the roc flag is already ingame.
and if its so bad like the japanese navy flag for certain locations they just can region lock it for those players
Indeed, there was a “Traditional Chinese” option in the language settings, and it displayed the Republic of China flag. Ironically, the display restrictions for “Simplified Chinese” were set before server development, yet they are now protesting the appearance of the Republic of China flag in languages they don’t use (such as English, Japanese, and Russian). According to their logic: those who don’t play Chinese TT or aren’t Chinese/Taiwanese have no right to speak. So why are they unhappy about these visual elements appearing in languages they don’t use? Now, following their protest, the server development content has been modified and officially released within 24 hours, and I believe all our discussions were reasonable and unrelated to nationality or whether one plays a particular country’s TT.