CS/SA5, another ruined vehicle, time to end this

We’re barely past the halfway mark of the first dev server and we already have some dudes tardsmashing their computer of things clearly labelled SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

Uh huh.

Rest of this is just China cope, why even read it.

not after the continuous bug report. and many are still not accepted.

is it? It’s not just usual cope, but an example of gaijin’s lazyness

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You literally did not read what I said above lmao
calling it cope is wild when it is justified, you sound like you have an bias as well. You are not a part of the Chinese community so you do not understand the injustice. You were not there to witness our efforts and yet you claim that what we do is somewhat unreasonable? You yourself never get frustrated with the issue report managers?

Just a few examples

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Once again, it’s the first dev server. Are you new here?

we’ve seen many times only one dev server. and isn’t this dev server’s job? let players report bugs, but now it’s like they throw most of the work to players
and I guess you never dealt with the report mod.

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Its just using a placeholder missile at the moment, the HN6 from the pgz04a, because the FB10A wasn’t ready yet.

visual model is complete but data of HN-6, model is old datamined FB-10 not FB-10A. it’s like R-27R and ER.
they made a mistake that can be avoided by just googling.

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Last update was 4 dev servers. 4. The content here almost dwarfs the amount of the last update.

That’s sort of what happens when you have a hilariously small dev team.

I have.

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Why would they sell, it’s their biggest cash cow of all their games. I bet you could add up all the revenue from every other thing they publish and it’d be half of what WT brings or less.

Well that’s what it said for J11B and then it was real server and then next thing you knew, next patch already.

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Then u look at T64 and nvm even T54, and say , hey how do they get 400mm and 200mm ufp respectively and vt5 only has 50 and that is like 1/5 of the size rest is 30or 25

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If Gaijin don’t treat their Dev server well now and for years, why we should keeping believing they could fix these problem in the future?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1kz5e6j/comment/mv3ccap/

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T-54 has 100mm of armor on the UFP, not 200, and weighs 36 tons while being physically smaller than the VT5 [by at least 1 meter shorter] with a far more cramped turret that doesn’t have a bustle autoloader.

Compare VT5 to TAM now.

T-54 is not 1 m shorter. 9 m vs 9.2 gun forward, the measurement that says 7.5 is wrong cause there is no chance T-54 has 1 m longer barrel than VT-5. That measurement is of ZTQ15 with ERA which are all accounted as part of hull, making it around 20cm longer in the first place.

When I said 200 I meant equivalence whilst VT-5 has really got a LFP facing design, which is currently 30mm at near 0 degree tilt, which makes no sense cause it is actively worse than TAM, which has 50mm for both turret and hull, and for hull it is all round, not just that tiny little part up front. It is also lighter by 3 tonnes which more than makes up for the size and bustle auto loader.

Also when u mention the size of the turret, T54 is actually larger, but because it has 1. 3 people inside and 200-130 mm of armour it is more cramped.

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The hull and turret is where the mass is, not the gun.
The T-55 hull is 6.2 meters vs the 7.5 meters of the VT5.

The T-55 is smaller, but keep calling reality wrong instead of accepting it.

So the reality of it being able to withstand 100 mm KE is ‘fake’?
Also regarding weight u might want to revise how to calculate volume.

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Mass isn’t dictated by effective armor, it’s dictated by amount of matter.

You are skipping the point, is it able to do so RN? No, the strongest part of its armour can’t do that, which it should be able to. And the armour is yet still be only 50% the mass of T54 hull, even considering the 7.4 m with ERA/NERA package.

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