County class

I’ve been working though my british naval for the event, and for some reason the county class is the same BR as the admiral hipper class and new orleans class despite being far inferior to either. Apart from Gaijin’s complete lack of interest in naval and terrible balancing skills why would this be the case?

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Excellent question… but no idea. But a piece of advice for German Cruisers. aim for the waterline below the rear turrets. Will 1 shot them most of the time.

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Because 8 x 8" (203mm) guns appears to be the sole criteria for being 5.7 :(

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https://wiki.warthunder.com/HMS_York

That’s just Britian tax

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…or just being British :)

Every BR update Im waitning for norfolk and york to drop to 5.3 and yet they still remain… even tho bolzano is 5.0 for some reason lol.

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Yeah, i didn’t put the york in because it’s an outlier that nobody uses. ironically because it’s worse in basically every way than the county, which is overtiered itself.

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Ships in general needs a compression/Decompression. Depending on if its coastal or Bluewater. Lots of ships are over/Under Tiered for what they are. Gun Caliber isnt the way to balance the Brs. THey dont really look at the trifiecta of Ships. Armor/guns/Manuv. THey jsut say gun big place here.

It’s not even that consistent, the placement of ships seems to be completely arbitrary. like, the fucking skr-7 is still 4.3, when it could easily be 5.7. the british seem get the worst of overtiering. i would love to hear some justifications from gaijin for their BR placements but that’s never going to happen.

5.7 skr man that is far from delusional. I would like to see a single argument to justify it being on the same level as prinz eugen lol.

There is a need of some decompressiom but for now it is hard to be done since many countries still have no full lineups on some BRs. Especially problematic is 6.0-6.3 area where another BR should be placed but majority of countries has nothing to fill that BR with, or they could only get a pre-WW1 ships that wouldnt be too fun to use against planes.

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that thing should go back to 6.0 though, it shouldn’t see 4.7s ever.

Ships are not balanced by what they can see in full downtier. Eugen is one of the best 5.7 sure but on 6.0 it only lasted one BR update before being moved down again. It stood no chance against 6.0s and this change only confirmed that.

Some boats and ships are BR /performance nerfed in favour for “other nations”. It’s disappointing how poor the balance is.

Examples?

Oh okay then so it wouldn’t matter at all if my Daring classes got moved down to 4.3 then…

She is too good for 5.7. Simple as. She is the best 5.7. Compared to other 5.7s she has some of the best armour, best guns, and decent speed too. She should not be 5.7 with the County classes.

PT-802 This Japanese motor torpedo boat had its BR adjusted to 2.0
VTB-13 A French motor gun boat, now with a BR of 1.3
Italian 2.3 boats are in real 2.0
Elco 80 ft Torpedo Boat (USA) Adjustments to armament and speed
Bristol Type 1938 (UK) Changes to survivability or firepower
Gearing-class Destroyers (USA) Sometimes see BR adjustments for balance
Fletcher-class Destroyers (USA) nerfed due to their effectiveness

No clue what do you mean by that. Darings are better than other 4.3s and are 4.7 for that reason.

True but also magazine that is fairly easy to be detonated by Ap shells of other cruisers. On 6.0 that armor means nothing too

Good but not best, Haguro, Pola, Glorious and Duca has similar or better salvos. On 6.0 the amount and layout of those guns just sucks

Agreed. Lets move Norfolk and York down then. Lets solve problems by not creating another ones.

Ok what and how that proves anything? Gearing BR wasnt ever changed, altho it should. I dont remember any changes to fletcher within 2 years and the ship performs good. VTB13 is well placed on 1.3…

What even are you trying to say bringing up random stuff? There are ships under and over BRed in different trees but overall balance is good.

Some ships are too bad or even too good for their BR, but you see it differently and that makes you a small minority.