either sabo or heat either one is the most common round
Any 8.0+ sabot will have no issue with the somua. Heat has inconsistent damage but if you aim well you can just pen the hull. Also most stuff below 8.0 uses aphe/heat
you need 240mm + of pen to go through the front plate and both HEAT and sabo will only get the driver and machine gunner same with solid shot
correct but both sabot and heat has enough pen for that
I am gonna boot up wt to test
shoot the turret with solid shot
this isn’t WoT… stop advocating for fantasy nerfs like gaijin can just decide on a whim that the penetration is “too good” and needs to come down. The game has never worked like this.
1 Like
Separately, the Somua SM could be rebalanced but all you could do with it currently is make it 8.0 because it can’t and shouldn’t go higher
lorraine also goes twice as fast…
1 Like
Somua used to qualify for discussions around being OP, but then they added a boat load of big HE slingers to the game and nothing melts a Somua quicker than a HE shell to the turret.
1 Like
Well, panzerhouse 2000 is also known to be undertiered))) ofc undertiered TD beats strong heavy tank))
2 Likes
France has one vehicle that actually has fair treatment and people screech, crazy.
I gotta be honest. I have been on both sides against 7.7 France, but the people thay complain the most are people like this, essentially inexperienced players who don’t know how to play their own tank let alone deal with their enemies
3 Likes
People do that with the STRV103 and even Maus (fire your 75mm and they think you fired your 128mm). So funny to see. Goes to show how much vehicle familiarity and situational awareness matters in this game.
Somua is fine, great vehicle, not OP. Lorraine 40t and AMX50 TOA100 are better.
These vehicles are essentially 8.7 as they get near a 100% full uptier at this point. It’s one of my favorite lineups in the entire game but I don’t play them anymore because the uptiering is so extreme… constantly fighting tanks that have darts, stab, better armor and mobility gets old after the 67th max uptier in a row.
Somua SM should get removed and re-added just like CV 90105 TML.
But there will be no option to get an replacement vehicle, because tank with current somua sm stats doesn’t exist.
Not sure what you’re trying to say.
no clue aswell
Fix the armour and reclassify it as a medium tank. Looking at primary documentation, there are a lot of examples of it being mentioned as either a “Char Moyen” (Tr: medium tank) or in the context of the Char Moyen 50t project, a medium tank project. SOMUA’s SM was designed as a rival medium tank design to AMX’s char 50t designs, which were classified as medium tanks in real life, including the Surbaissé.
The SM is no different, with the tank actually having armour similar to the AMX 50, with the UFP and LFP both being 75mm, as seen in original drawing 500 SM, for some reason gaijin doubled the armour, made it 60 tons, while it should be more around 52-56 tons and made it a heavy tank.
I have an accepted report on the armour from 4 months ago, as the front armour isn’t the only part of the armour that’s wrong, it’s more about a matter of time before gaijin decides to fix it.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/pKM4KNvfB2bU