Could we talk about the souma SM

like this is probably the most op tank ive ever seen any person gets literally has insane armor insane gun and reload and mobility and its premium locked behind a pay wall as it just insane compared to the normal tech trees. its a toxic vehicle with very few vehicles this op. rarely one taps with heat and sabot you half to have filler or some explosive or you wont one tap it definitely deserves a higher br or something cause comparing it to anything it has a insane chance of wining. so ive come with some ideas to fix it.

  • nerf the souma SM reload
  • raise its BR
  • nerf the soumas pen
  • reduce its mobility
  • other explain below
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French main are untouchable. Pray when you see it unless your shell and armor is guided by Gaijin

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yea kinda weird how i see no one talk about it

its about as OP as any tank ever and definietly deserves a nerf thats why i made this petition to get gaijin to do something just look at its stats

Can’t say I find it very problematic. Once the autoloader is empty it takes ages to get a single round back into it and with only a normal MG it has no backup weapons. Plus the ammo selection is only solid AP and HE. And at its BR it’s exposed to HEAT and APDS which nullifies much of its armor perks.

It’s a strong vehicle, for sure. But it has its weaknesses as well. France players are usually also pretty good players, which makes their vehicles go up in BR, making casuals not play them, leaving a lot of good players that can play them left, and skews the perception of how good the vehicles are because of the higher average skill of the players. And repeat.

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all of the above?

Me in my Ontos lol pening it, seriously its a heavy tank with fast reload, play smart and don’t fall for their bait when they shoot. Wait for them amd spam the map, if you’re going head to head with them and you dint have the pen to hurt them its on you, its no different from running into any other armored tank honestly.

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Looks like France can’t have anything good huh.

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Swear this is the cause of 90% of the kills when folk use it. “Oh it’s just fired, let’s rush” followed by return to hangar.

its a extremely strong it has good armor 200mm+ and if your auto loaders empty u can just fall back not to mention according to stat shark it has the highest winrate for a 7.7 which is 56.2 this is excluding the E100 and SURBLINDE which have higher win rates and kills but are almost never encountered also the fact that it faces APDS doesnt matter since the APDS Is unreliable at this tier it almost never one shots and the souma is very spaced heat does good too not to mention it fights things like the M26 pershing at 6.7 in a downtier

To be fair most people put themselves in to a bad situation. Had a ZSU-57-2 attack my maus, was aline, he realized he couldn’t hurt me and when he had to run i killed him. People should realize to engage with what they can, and if you can’t try to get your team to help, if you over extend thats on you.

could add a “nothing, its fine” option to the poll

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Yeah but why do that when you hate the vehicle lol

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Yeah but that don’t tell the story they want lol

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strongest 7.7 is a premium its not fine its literally pay to win loraainne 40T is same br but it gets no armor

Strongest 7.7? I’d argue the Surbaisse and Surblinde are better.

Either way, I’d recommend adding it to your poll. No point in a poll if it just has one outcome: The Somua gets shafted.

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They’re basing it off of win rates (Which we do not generally have to hand in an accurate form). Whilst not accounting for the nature of the playerbase the vehicle belongs to. Because that doesn’t serve their narrative.

i mean its kills are insane to

If you lot keep aiming at the thickest part or driving out in front of an autoloaded tank the moment it fires, I’d bloody well hope the kills are decent accounting for the folk who play it. However, unless the source has changed, this information is biased by the people who give enough of a damn to actually use that service. Which for the French tree, will be an exceptional minority of a group of players that generally perform better as a majority.

But I really don’t care to explain how biases present in data, nor should I have to.

heres there stats side by side

AMX-50 Surbaissé
Rank 5
BR 7.7
#17
Games Played
10,198,960
Victories
5,503,310
Win Rate
54.0%
Spawns
10,641,286
Ground Kills
12,796,630
Air Kills
69,279
Naval Kills
N/A
Deaths
8,981,817
Kills per Spawn
1.21
Kills per Death
1.43
SL per Game
6,921
RP per Game
491

Somua SM
Rank 5
BR 7.7
#13
Games Played
12,931,978
Victories
7,270,011
Win Rate
56.2%
Spawns
14,922,386
Ground Kills
22,967,524
Air Kills
86,996
Naval Kills
N/A
Deaths
13,152,806
Kills per Spawn
1.54
Kills per Death
1.75
SL per Game
20,191
RP per Game
1,357

its very rare to see surblindes and E100s so i dont really count them siince chances are just that low