I almost feel like it would be a waste because I believe its fairly accepted at this point that the vast majority of the player base prefers domestic vehicles over imported. I can’t remember a single point in time, even back to when Germany received the CL-13 and Mig-15 Bis that there wasn’t massive backlash. While i’m fine with some imported vehicles, they should be the lowest on the priority list to be added if a domestic variant is available at a similar BR.
and it doesn’t help that there are a few players out there who a dead-set on convincing people that the Dutch Leopard 2a4’s smoke launcher array, or some obscure Canadian centurion, are unique vehicles that are due the same attention as actual domestic vehicles for that tree.
C&P premiums are 100% better. But they also have to be used by nations that have a home in it.
I’d say the Senrai maidens would be a great example if they had done what they did with China at the start. Make it so the Senrai was on a tank China used. Sadly, Germany has a tank so fake under this; it’s nearly as bad as the ones removed. A German flag on a tank never used by them, using the name of a completely different variant(a 2A4M and a 2A4M CAN not even look the same). Not to mention how 90% of the tank it was based on was first added was connected to a different tree in-game.
So, well, Clickbait, 2A4 OTCO, etc get a pass (even if there for the “grind premium,” there should always be both sub-tree and host tree options.
Elsa’s 2A4 doesn’t, as it’s the biggest insult to injury due to a premium that implies a different history than the one found in real life.
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I have to disagree with your approach there. I’d rathe a tree get a vhecile it designed, like:
than be forced to take on an imported vehicle from a subtree
Subtree additions to tree should be assess by at least two criteria:
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Do the subtree Vehicles provide a capability that the primary tree could not provide on its own?; and
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Is the vehicle a functionally unique addition to the game.
Ideally vehicles should pass both tests, and at the bare minimum, they should pass one (but event that is scratching the bottom).
I would rather not see more premiums that outright insult their operator nation by suggesting every part of their history is wrong.
Just a reminder:
Royal Canadian
Royal in Canada can probably be given out by the one representing the Canadian Monarchy; aka, if it was anything of importance(museum, school, military, etc.), it’s used using royal due to a royal giving it to them. And the Canadian royal family is the same as one in a different tree. So the pre-order title suggests a very different history.
The original decal
Before it was replaced by the generic snow leopard it was this, and let me tell you, it also has connections to a nation that isn't Germany
Calling the 2A4M CAN a good premium is, in agreement with Gaijin, that Canada is a GERMAN colony under the monarchy of Germany.
Also, every German main that called it a good premium (and all Leos belong in Germany) demanded every aircraft not used by Germany in the same update. So if you want to agree with them, go ahead; you are also agreeing with their claim on the Swiss and every other European nation.
Would be perfect if we had a 2A4M premium, but we don’t; we have a 2A4M CAN premium. The CAN part is imported as it has add-on armour assembled to custom specs Canada requested.
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I would rather have the C&P premium vehicle come out from tech-tree ripoff
Unique premium vehicles are causing the problem, such as ‘I forced to buy it if I really need to operate it’, locked behind a paywall.
and if those unique vehicles are underperforming drastically,
Gaijin generally discontinue them, and those become locked behind [inaccessible paywall]
Then we all need to suffer from FOMO and a non-discounted price (sometimes 30% discount) for these.
So, for a premium vehicle, C&P one is better than a unique one.
(If we exclude the balancing issue about BMPT for arguing’s sake)
Senrai/Clickbait/PzBtl 123/and BMPT is not a bad addition as premium because you can play vehicles with a similar role without paying for these.
While Sea Vixen could be considered as bad premium because there are no tech-tree counterparts which supports similar role.
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Senrai Maidens aren’t copy-paste; they’re a unique variant of existing vehicles which is more preferred that rare vehicles.
However, copy-paste premiums are preferred to those as well.
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How in the world can Senrai Maiden not be considered as ‘copy-paste’?
Because of some random 3D assets that can be attached via 3D Max or something?
Or because of some random textures which made by AI and had watermarks on them?
Do Senrai Maiden vehicles have a major spec difference compared to their regular variant? - no
Do Senrai Maiden vehicles have unique ammunition which regular variants cannot access? - no
Do Senrai Maiden vehicles give players a unique gameplay experience compared to their regular variants, except voicepack? - no
They are refurbished copy-paste premium.
Just like WW2 packs. copy-pasted vehicles and retouched with extra graphics.
In your theory, M1A1HC Clickbait isn’t c&p of M1A1HC thanks to the silly white plastic chair.
Yeah I agree the Elsa Leopard should have been a 2A5, Canadian leo in general should be in the UK tree as a tech tree vehicle.
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Copy paste refers to the base vehicle stats being copy pasted, not the visual design/model of the vehicle. As I said, I am all for that and would like to see more tech tree vehicles with visually interesting, unique models used as premiums. That way the prototypes and rarer vehicles can instead be earned by everyone in either the tech tree or events.
Unique vehichles should not be locked behind a paywall. Yes. Except if you miss an event, the paywall is usually far greater than the price of a premium vehichle. And you are lucky if the event vehichle is available ever again. Unique vehichles should be either event vehichles and years later should become regular premiums, or they should be just techtrees to begin with.
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These options don’t actually cover the actual issue, at least not as I see it.
Unique vehicles such as prototypes, both those that made it to full production and those that did not, are fine as premiums IMO, it’s locking full production mainline vehicles, especially the most advanced version behind a pay wall that is the issue.
The F-14D was extra scummy as they not only made it premium but stripped it of many of it’s weapons to keep it’s BR down to the BR they wanted the premium at. If they had made the D TT and added the A or B (upgrade) as premium that where the A/Bs upgraded to D standard (rather than fresh production) there would have been no issue, even adding the “Rover 3” F-14D that was identical to the regular D for game purposes.
Personally I think premiums should be either prototypes or “hero units” that are functionally identical to the TT counterpart, mainline/ mass produced service vehicles should always be TT, especially the best versions of them.
That’s my opinion on it anyway.
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I strongly agree with some of these comments, i’m ok with them adding copy and paste vehicles because they will of course eventually run out of vehicles. What i’m not ok with is them making a unique vehicle locked behind a paywall or a event.
I think people should deserve to be rewarded for grinding the tech tree not for someone to spend $80 to have a better plane than the one they worked for. If they have these premiums they should’nt make it something better or completely unique to the tech tree. Go back to the old ways they did it that’s the best way.
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I feel like event vehicles are more “fair” Just because MOST everyone can grind it while premium vehicle you have to buy it. And the unique vehicle im talking are like experimental vehicle like the leopard 2 140 that wouldn’t exactly fit in the tech tree
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I prefer copy paste premiums or not marginally different to regular tree vehicles (like the same weapon system on the different chassis) especially for smaller nations. Actually even BP prizes/event vehicles better be some minor variants of TT vehicles imo.
I’m still waiting for regular tree Toldi, Turan II, IAR-93A/MB, 90/53 on Lancia 3Ro, Ro.57bis and this is only for Italian TT.
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Everyone whiout a job. They take a hell of a time.
I’m of the opinion the best premium vehicles are somewhere inbetween pure C&P and pure uniqueness. Sidegrades, if you want. Vehicles that share at least part of their design with their TT counterpart but provide minor changes that set them slightly apart. Think M26 and M26E1 for example.
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Copy-paste for events, so the fomo isn’t as bad.
Unique premiums for GE/packs.
Premiums definitely need to be copies of TT vehicles.
Although I don’t mind premiums coming first, before TT versions if the wait period isn’t too long.
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no the whole point of the events its too get unique vehicles,
no? why get locked behind a paywall?
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