God that sounds like such a fun aircraft to fly
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Absolutely
My only issue is lack of RWR and Countermeasures, seeing as performance and weapons-wise you’d be looking at 9.7-10.0 minimum.
As was stated waaaayyy above, the F-106 WAS modified with flare/chaff dispensers, but that was specific to the QF-106 program, and there’s no telling what specific dispenser was used
The F-106 wasn’t fitted with Countermeasures as its area of operation was exclusively over the US continent and was never expected to have to face enemy missiles. Iliirc it wasn’t standard practice to fit US interceptors with any chaff/flares until the F-15 MSIP II got them during refit, although Gaijin chickened out and sidestepped the issue by giving them to the early Eagle too so who knows what a Delta would really end up getting?
The QF-106 was indeed fitted with flares, but these were launched for illumination rather than as a countermeasure. The idea was to make the aircraft a better targer for IR tests but also by spreading the heat signature it reduced the likelihood of a direct hit, the drones being expensive and few in number as it was. The basic difference is they weren’t forcefully fired away from the pods to a great distance but simply ejected in to the airstream.
And the F-15 firing AIM-4s was real! They were launched outside of maximum range towards a C-141 during MAWS/Countermeasure testing. Dummy warhead and low fuel meant zero chance of hitting and they were perfectly safe, although I still don’t think I would have wanted to be onboard watching out a window.
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I don’t see Gaijin adding a completely experimental missile with no information on performance or if the Six even tested them.
Given the FCS issues I mentioned earlier, I have little doubt in my mind that the Six would not have tested them. Rather, the F-101B, F-102, F-4D or -4E, all of which had the FCS set up to fire them, would have been utilized.
The Super Falcons were honestly quite good, and featured good ECCM and IRCCM for the time(even by the 80s, the IRCCM inherent to the 4G’s seeker design was nothing to scoff at). The AIM-4G should have few issues firing head-on against an afterburning target, and the lead selenide segmented detector should be able to reject singular flares.
No, it doesn’t have a proxy fuse or insane maneuverability like the 4H. But we know so little about 4H that it’s a bit irresponsible to try to find a condition to add it.
Also, that’s an AIM-4G on that 15 ;)
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Quite frankly, I honestly don’t see Gaijin adding the Dart any time soon. They have a severe aversion to anything that isn’t top tier air.
However, if they were to add it at any point, I feel we should do our best to ensure its as good as it can possibly be. And if that includes the AIM-4H, then so be it.
+1 this, the rest of the century series and all the other Soviet interceptors are long overdue for the game and should have came awhile ago.
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“as good as it can possibly be” would also mean the highest BR it could possibly be, where the lack of countermeasures would be as big of a disadvantage as it could possibly be, making the Six as forced into a single playstyle as it could possibly be.
I’d rather the aircraft be 10.0 than 10.7, thank you very much.
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It’s anyones guess why the F-106 has not been added already. Between the AIM-4D/E/F/G as well as AIM-26B, (which was also used by Switzerland on Mirage IIIS as far as I’m aware) combined with Gaijins easy going attitude regarding historically inaccurate modifications I see no reason why F-106 could not be added in one way shape or form.
We even have a aircraft that is only armed with missiles in game already. There clearly are many possibilities to add F-102 as well as F-106.
Who knows maybe they will end up being premium or event vehicles.
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AIM-26 and AIM-4 was also used by the Finns on the J-35XS
It still annoys me to this day that they haven’t given it the AIM-26 or R-13M for that matter as that missile was far more commonly used on the J-35XS in Finnish service over the AIM-9Ps it has currently…
Falcons really aren’t as bad as people make them out to be, the fudd lore around them stems almost exclusively from experiences in Vietnam when they were mounted to an airframe they really shouldn’t have been to begin with and because a famous pilot who flew that plane said they were bad, people just take that statement at face value and assume it’s true when in reality the whole situation is far more complicated than that.
Falcons can work just fine in WT even without a proxy fuse, if they really really need to have one than XAIM-4H can be added if that’s the case.
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Swedish Falcons were actually fitted with proxy fuzes. The Rb-28 is basically an AIM-4D with proxy fuze and new motor iirc, it’s arguably the best IR AIM-4 variant and definitely the best to see service. The Rb-27 is the AIM-26B, a super sized nuclear Falcon with the nuke taken out for export. It’s definitely the best SARH Falcon variant/derivative with the best range, largest warhead, and a proxy fuze.
And the R-13M should be on basically everything that has R-3S, it was actually widely produced and exported unlike the R-13M1 and has been added to the game multiple times but then always removed for some reason.
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Really want F-106 and Mirage IIIS now.
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Yeah the more one looks into it the more the reasons gaijin has given for not adding falcons (or other early missiles for that matter) start to look rather silly.
And yeah their strange allergy to R-13Ms is rather odd especially since there are a few planes that could very much benefit from having them.
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I don’t know what reasons they stated but it probably would have been broken with only the US getting these highly manueverable missiles at then-top-tier. Nowadays though it’s not too tier anymore and there are of course better missiles than the early AIM-9s around the BR, and flares which didn’t exist at the time.
Gaijin just hates adding vehicles below top tier because it isn’t hype enough to generate money through premium sales. That’s why this hasn’t been added yet- Gaijin’s complacency.
My guess is that the AIM-4 just isn’t even on the radar because of all the fuddlore. I’m only one person, unfortunately, so I’m not sure I can move mountains in terms of popular opinion. But I’m trying.
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I would drop money on an F-106 in a heartbeat lol
God I hope not, at least in the case of the 6
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The Dagger (102) at least, would be a great event/premium vehicle. Missiles and rockets only, just like the Vixen but without the CAS capability (unless we count the 24 FFARs stowed in the bay doors)
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F-102…Don’t forget the SUU-11 gunpods with their GAU-2 miniguns, 7.62mm x 6 at their finest and capable of tearing apart…er…almost nothing at the BR it would land at. No bombs though, despite TERs being fitted, as there was no multiple selection panel for the wing pylons (maybe someone could argue for 1 bomb per wing?)
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You could launch the Falcons on ground targets with your IRST. that was done in Vietnam at least.^^
I thought these pods were not fitted in the end.