To be honest it would make sense only because us console players have essentially no way to get old event/battlepass vehicles, though I do agree that it should be a bit harder to get them to make it fair, perhaps as a researchable format similar to squadron vehicles. That probably made no sense but I tried.
They would profit from ge sales via their stores
Sure, but it seems like what and where they spend the GEs on is what is causing issues.
And how the proceeds are divided up . . . and no one here can offer up solutions for that.
Therein lies the quandary . … that and no one here knows the inner business dealings between the 3 . . . 4 if you count Steam . . . and so on . . .
My point remains, it’s not something the players can “fix” and it’s out of our hands.
Plus it’s sad to see the infighting over things that we have no control or say in
anyway . . . hence why I said . . . “pointless”.
But people be people and they do people stuff . . … this is the way
I prefer the convertable RP option. Make it available for both PC and Console, and I dont want to say remove the marketplace, but integrate it into War Thunder as a trading system as well (You give me a coupon for a vehicle, I give you a vehicle or something) which should in theory bypass any console restrictions
A) you chose to play on a “walled garden” platform that doesn’t allow a 3rd party market place.
B) Vehicles on the marketplace are subject to supply, many old vehicles are gone and unobtainable regardless of how much you are willing to pay for them.
C) the good vehicles that ARE available on the market usually cost hundreds if not well over a thousand dollars and are unaffordable for most people.
D) everybody getting access to re-run vehicles dose not hurt console players in the least.
What you don’t seem to realize is that the realities of the supply and demand of the market place mean you are demanding what amounts to exclusive access for console players for many vehicles and highly discounted versions of the rest.
Yes I understand that not having access to the market is frustrating, but again you chose to play on a platform that doesn’t allow it, that is NOT the fault of PC players, or Gaijin for that matter, and raging at them over it is not going to help.
You are doing the equivalent of the person that buys a house next to a pub, then spends years complaining about the noise.
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So expecting equality from a developer is the equivalent of moving near somewhere and complaining. Got it. Maybe if Gaijin allowed easier access for Xbox and PlayStation players to convert to PC and back, we would not have this conversation. But no, Gaijin refuses to even do that. Weird how any other game, I can easily switch from Xbox to PC, except War Thunder.
Personally I think they need a rerun system for ALL players, the market is not as accessible as console players seem to think as it is driven by supply, there are many vehicles that simply are not available and many more that are prohibitively expensive.
Additionally the low value of the vehicles and excessively grindy coupons in the new event system make selling the new stuff for old ones, even when available, not a very viable option.
The new vehicles are averaging between 10 and 30 dollars on the market, the old ones are from 90 to 1500.
You move onto a platform that prohibits a 3rd party marketplace and are blaming Gaijin and PC players for not giving you access to the 3rd party market place. So yes.
You may recall the Epic games V Apple over Fortnite bypassing the apple store:
That’s basically the same logic, console companies demand a % of sales on their platform, Gaijin market would bypass that
I agree they need to resolve that issue.
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Not everyone can afford a pc, let alone a decent one. This is a stupid point to even try to use.
Even moreso now that RAM, SSD and GPU prices are through the damn roof.
Artificial supply since Gaijin could just as easily ‘flip a switch’ to sell them directly themselves. I see zero harm in allowing access to old event vehicles so long as they aren’t the ridiculously rare ones that were tournament only (example: E100) as that would genuinely be unfair to the people who proved their skill to actually earn them.
So it’s okay for PC players to have access but not new and/or console players?
This reeks of double standards and you know it; these vehicles could be made to be unable to be transferred off account to begin with even if account conversions were once again available (IE Xbox account converted to PC account).
This way it’d prevent any attempts at crashing the gaijin market to begin with.
My PC cost less then the latest gen console.
yes, for all players on all platforms.
I do believe that new things that are added should be as fair as posable to all players, regardless of the platform, the issue is the market is a legacy system that cannot be migrated to console due to those own consoles ToS. As such I don’t think it’s fair to punish PC players in new systems based of those console companies not allowing access to the market.
Not really, how is saying that a new system that would likely replace the market should be equally accessible to all players regardless of platform a double standard?
If anything saying that because you think that it’s un-fair that your chosen platform banned you from accessing a legacy system, that PC players should be arbitrarily banned from accessing a new system to punish them (for what is again your console companies decisions) and that is some how “fair” is more of a double standard.
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I got a great PC for 1080p for not much more than a PS5 Pro. You can get a decent PC for less than that if you buy used. Even today.
I think this is a console issue too
^^
I just checked, a PS5 Pro and 1 controller costs today about what my PC did including mouse, keyboard, monitor and speakers did a few years ago.
I highly doubt that when DDR5 prices alone are (or were ala a few months ago) were 500% of their original price.
A used PS4 is maybe $250.
We’re not asking for the Gaijin marketplace on console. That’s completely unfeasible due to what you just mentioned. Gaijin already sells premium vehicles, event vehicles for purchase wouldn’t be much different.
A new system that could just be easily accessible for pc players if Gaijin allowed it since Gaijin could use it under the guide of ‘legacy sales’ that pop up, say, around Black Friday or Christmas as an example.
This won’t affect the ecosystem for the truly rare vehicles.
Where? Because I’ve only seen prebuilds go for nearly $1500 to $2000 and personal builds for decent specs are closer to $800+. Not saying it’s impossible, just highly doubt it.
Edit
I should mention that my knowledge on where to buy pc hardware is limited, so this is likely a place of ignorance on my part.
Yep. PS5 Pro today costs about $1600, I paid $1400 for my PC.
i5-12400f
Gigabyte B760m
32GB DDR4 3200Mhz
RTX 3050 6Gb
Plays war thunder fine they’re just complaining they bought the wrong thing
If you cant afford to get a better gaming device than a PS4 (2014 console btw) in 2026, then you can’t afford anything on the market
Yes it would because it negates the entire marketplace system as most of the vehicles would be sold cheaper than on the marketplace. Just like how consoles have premiums PC players cant get
Is a decent spec for you going to be a 5080? I assume you mean USD. Because that is worse than the current shortage should suggest
We’re not trying to have a go at you and of course parts cost different prices in different places
Which premiums?
FROM WHERE? A PS5 PRO SHOULD NOT BE $1600
No, 50xx series is dogwater.
Yes well to be fair, I bought my PC when there wasn’t a certain individual tariffing all the rare earths that are required for chips and burning the part of the world that produces all the petro-chemicals that are required to refine said rare earths. Current events are a bit of an anomaly.
I think it cost me about AU$1200-1400 all up for a build using chips that where about 3rd or 4th down the list in performance, the latest 2 or so generations of PC hardware usually cost massive amounts more for small gains in performance.
Currently a PS5 Pro is AU$1398
Bruh.
Doesn’t help that Nacon announced pulling out of the consumer RAM market about a week or two ago either.
The XM-1 (cant remember what model, but you get both whereas PCs get one), you used to get the F4U-4B VMF-214 (i think thats the right numbers lol), A-26 attacker, yes granted I dont think the last two are sold anymore but yk, I’d do anything for that Corsair
NZD, that comes to about $900 - $1000 USD
As I said my build was about $1400 for the whole setup (1080p 144hz monitor, peripherals and everything included) which comes to about $750 - $850 USD
Yeah lol
About the same price as it is here, though that seems a bit more expensive
Jeeze.
Genuinely surprised US tarrifs even affect oceania but [the more you know]
Yeah, there is the AI bubble currently too, I believe that is vacuuming up a lot of RAM supplies.
So there is a bit of a perfect storm right now with supply chain issues and peeking demand.
might be because I’m rural, stuff has to be trucked a fair way to get here.
I dont actually think it is the tarrifs I think its mostly just both the NZ and AU economies are buggered. Also thanks for not calling us both Australia
Probably. I just went off of the generic prices at Noel Leeming and Mighty Ape here.
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