They should just remove the shell shatter mechanic. APHE doesn’t shatter, APHE doesn’t have its explosive mass prematurely detonate because the cavity ruptured, APHE doesn’t fail to detonate because of bad fuses. So why do other shells get these drawbacks?
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Tried this, got outsniped by a maus that one tapped me after my shell did nothing to it.
Skill issue. Genuinely.
Maus do have much better optic than the conqueror at 10x, where the conqueror has a pathetic 6x, one of them can see and aim much better bro
The 120mm from conqueror do filled to the brim with dogwater, trade it for the smaller 105mm L7A3 and it will perform several times better. The conqueror is like someone who flex his size but can’t get it up.
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Respectfully, I think you’re wrong. I absolutely ADORE the conqueror and it’s part of the reason I really like 7.7 Britain. The round is finnicky, yes, but most of the time it HITS and it hits HARD. For example, you can just Upper Front Plate Tiger 2’s. (The 20 Pounder can UFP Panthers too but that’s besides the point and everyone knows the Caernarvon and Centurion are good). The reload does not feel nearly as bad as it seems on paper, at least to me, because the other attributes of the tank more than make up for it. The armor is actually quite good when you’re hull down and the mobility is on par with the Centurion, letting you get into some very silly positions.
Despite my adoration and love for this tank, I’m also willing to admit it’s a very flawed tank. As much as I gas up the round, I have also had it do the APDS classic on multiple occasions, the most memorable of which being when I shot a Maus in the turret cheek you shoot to get the gunner/loader when it was unangled and the round just didn’t do anything. The gun depression is a major hinderance on a lot of maps, and the scope, as you mentioned, is inadequate at times. However, this is offset a bit by the rangefinder. It’s also cursed with the stabilized Britain Classic:tm: of having the primary ammo rack be directly next to the driver, for some reason (Genuinely why is this the case it’s not on the Centurion mark 1 but as soon as it gets stabilized with the mark 2 the ammo is suddenly shoved to the front of the vehicle). It also lacks a good HE shell thanks to the abysmal state HESH is currently in.
The Conqeuror is a good tank, but it’s a very flawed tank. The APDS is not nearly as bad as people claim it is, but it’s still a finnicky round. The pimple cupola being a cheesey weakspot for APHE slingers is also Very Fun:tm: but if you play it right, and play around your weaknesses and vulnerabilities, you can do some REALLY good stuff with it. Hell thanks to the stabilizer you can straight up brawl with it if you’re careful. You can also frontpen the T95/T28 so that’s pretty cool.
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All of you are exaggerating how bad its round is. It’s finnicky but it’s mostly reliable. The damage isn’t bad either, if you shoot a gepard in the face boob it just dies outright. A lot, not all but a lot, of the hate for sabot in general just comes from not knowing how to use it and aiming for places you would with APHE.
Iv’e played britain for over a year and used to have a lot of fun with the conqueror, even bringing it to 9.3 games and contesting T-72’s. But, something is a little wrong as it does not create spall/shrapnel, so missing ammo or crew by an inch (which happened to me as I fired at a leopard’s ammo and it had 1 piece missing in between other pieces, idk how, which is where my shell went), it just does not seem to do anything. It seems to have been more consistent when it was shell shattering instead of now, where it just does not pen.
Gaijin for the love of fuck stop messing with the conqueror and just make it function normally I’m BEGGING
Compare to the 105mm and chieftains 120mm, the one on the conquerer is definitely the worst one with highest probability of shell shattering lol
wow you mean the guns at higher BRs have better shells? that’s crazy
Rubbish is rubbish, it’s shattering way too much even when downtier in its respective br, the 105 doesn’t even do this except for composite armor. One keep shattering in their natural environment and another doesn’t do it at all.
The gun shield shouldn’t be weakness to any WW2 conventional round at all but because of the way it’s modeled, (the old way) there’s “cracks” in the armour that let rounds that shouldn’t pen, well, pen.
In the case of the 122 shooting the gun shield it is even worse because it registers as inside the tank itself and triggers overpressure and knocks out the tank.
Switching the old mantlet model to a new one that’s a single piece volumetric part would likely fix it unless it gets under armoured which given Britain’s history in this game, could happen.
I personally don’t have a lot of trouble with the round. Although, I do wish it wasn’t as garbage it is.
Getting shot by a King Tiger or IS2 in the gun shield and dying just ruins that heavy tank downtier experience most of want.