Every time a BR rebalance thread is posted the devs ignore ALL my suggestions for ground sim, so I’m making a list that will hopefully grow and be finally noticed.
This list is to ADD vehicles to lineups where they belong!
DO NOT POST ABOUT REMOVING “OP” VEHICLES!!
UPVOTE COMMENTS YOU AGREE WITH!
Let’s have a focused discussion on vehicles that should be in sim battles, but for some reason have been excluded or missed. Why does one nation have a vehicle in a lineup but an identical imported vehicle in another lineup is missing?
I also believe EVERY vehicle should be playable in sim in at least TWO lineups.
Example:
Vehicle : Type 16 + Type 16 FPS + Type 16 P
Nation : Japan
Lineup : 9_2/10_2
Issue : There are three Type 16 tanks in Japan but for some reason only 1 is in 9_2 and 2 are in 10_2. This makes no sense. They’re the same tank. The ONLY difference is 5mm more penetration.
Solution : Put all three tanks in 9_2 and 10_2
You can find a lineup list here : WTLineup (this list is not 100% accurate, check the game too)
Format : Please add only ONE vehicle per post.
Vehicle :
Nation :
Lineup : (that the vehicle is currently in)
Issue :
Solution :
Reminder : this thread is about expanding vehicle selection , not bitching about OP vehicles you think shouldn’t belong.
Vehicle : Marder 1A3
Nation : Germany
Lineup : 10_2
Issue : You can ONLY play this tank in 10_2 sim where at 7.7 is the LOWEST BR tank in the whole lineup. No one will ever play this in sim.
Solution : Add to 8_2 and/or 9_2
Vehicle : Marder A1-
Nation : Germany
Lineup : 9_2
Issue : You can ONLY play this tank in 9_2 sim where, at 7.3 facing 9.7 tanks, it is hugely overtiered.
Solution : Add to 8_2
Vehicle : Swiss F-5E
Nation : Germany
Lineup : 10_2
Issue : USA and China has identical F-5E in 10_2 but not Germany.
Solution : Add Swiss F-5E to 10_2
Vehicle : Stingray Tank
Nation : USA
Lineup : 10_2
Issue : You can ONLY play this tank in 10_2 sim where is next to useless. Fixed 7x Zoom, no thermals, FCS does not compensate for gun<->optics offset.
Solution : Add to 9_2, where it will be still useless, but has a fighting chance.
Vehicle : AGS
Nation : USA
Lineup : 10_2
Issue : AGS was kicked to 10_2, probably due to its RB performance, where it has no fighting chance. Poor optics placed on hull and only Gen1 TVD, pretty much negates the advantages it has in RB with gun sight in barrel.
Solution : Add it back to 9_2 where it still will have hard time against hordes of BDM-4xx.
Vehicle : M109 / A1 (SIX tanks)
Nation : 5 Nations
Lineup : 8_2_2
Issue : Another new tank class added to 5 nations but only 1 lineup. Give us more options! Especially with nations with fewer vehicles in this range, like Israel.
Solution : Add to 8_2
Vehicle : HKP9A (FC)
Nation : Sweden
Lineup : 10_2
Issue : In many ways this helicopter is a downgrade from the previous one, it gives up 4 ATGMs to add slightly more damage and thermals. You can only play it in this lineup, which makes it not worth crewing.
Solution : Add to 9_2
Vehicle : HKP9A
Nation : Sweden
Lineup : 9_2
Issue : You can ONLY play this helicopter in this lineup, where is quite good. However, since it carries more ATGMs it would be nice to have available in 10_2 giving players a choice of double the weapons OR thermals by flying the ‘upgrade’.
Solution : Add to 10_2
Vehicle : BO 105 PAH-1 & BO 105 PAH-1A1
Nation : Germany
Lineup : 10_2
Issue : The premium BO 105 CB-2 with identical flight performance and eight ATGMs is playable in 9_2. These 2 TT helicopters with only 6 ATGMs are only playable in 10_2. This makes no sense.
Solution : Add both to 9_2
Vehicle : PzH 2000
Nation : Germany
Lineup : 8_2_2
Issue : It is a modern vehicles but is locked in this early cold war setup.
Solution : Add to 10_2/11_2 where it can blast CAS/Helis on Airstrips/Helipads.
Vehicle : SA 341F Gazelle
Nation : France
Lineup : 10_2
Issue : China also has a Gazelle, but theirs is flyable in 9_2. The reason this one isn’t is that 9_2 has an obvious rule of ‘no air to air missiles’, which is reasonable. However if you actually play the helicopter in sim (and I have 100 times) you see that it’s actually pathetically overtiered.
You get a gun and TWO crappy mistrals OR just TWO Hot-2s.
The Tiger HAP gets 8 Hot-3 AND 4 mistrals AND a gun. 13v3. The Z-9WA gets thermals, 4 locking 6km ATGMs and 4 top tier ty-90s. 8v3. The Mi-35m gets 8 Atakas, 4 Iglas, a tracking gun, thermals AND 40 rockets.
53 weapons vs 3??
Solution: Add to 9_2 AND increase the spawn cost of using mistrals.
If you spawn with them and no CAS spawn you’re fairly useless, killing tanks with your gun is possible, but suicidal. You always have a gun so that should be your way of attacking other helicopters. A sensible pilot would carry the gun + 2 ATGMs, identical to the Chinese Gazelle (who could also choose to carry 4 to your 2). Mistrals will only kill planes who are not manoeuvring, and flares also defeat them easily. Not worth the extra spawn points.
Vehicle : FIAT 6614
Nation : Italy
Lineup : 5_1/6_2
Issue : The 6614 and the AUBL/74 are like brothers. Light tanks built on the same chassis, same BR but you cannot play them together in sim. Makes no sense. The 6614 is in NO X_2 lineups!
Solution : Add to 8_2 and 8_2_2
Vehicle : AUBL/74
Nation : Italy
Lineup : 8_2 and 8_2_2
Issue : See above
The FIAT 6614 and the AUBL/74 are like brothers. Light tanks built on the same chassis, same BR but you cannot play them together in sim. Makes no sense. The AUBL/74 is in NO X_1 lineups!
Solution : Add to 5_1/6_2
(FYI i put talismans on BOTH these tanks to play in sim… so annoying that I can only play 1 at once!)
Vehicle : M60A3 TTS
Nation : japan
Lineup :10_2
Issue :Both the american and chines M60A3 tts is in the 9_2 bracket, but not the japanese one.
Solution : Move it to the 9_2 bracket
Vehicle : M4A3 76 W
Nation : japan
Lineup : 4_1
Issue : America gets the M4A3 in 5_1, but japan not.
Solution : Add the M4A3 to the 5_1 bracket too and remove the Chi-ri, which is too weak at that bracket.
