Speed and Time to Intercept have always been the number one thing advertised for ASRAAM, the label of mach 3+ is simply to not give the game away.
Well, if you don’t mind me, that does say a whole lot of not much.
There’s nothing much that can be derived from highest speed and quickest intercept.
Highest speed compared to what ? All AAM ? All MBDA AAM, or all British MBDA AAM ? Max speed ? Average speed ?
Quickest time to intercept, at what ranges ? Compared to what (once again) ?
Even if Mach 3+ is an understatement (which I agree is a given, considering the aerodynamic and size of the missile), I don’t think this source specifically is anywhere close to conclusive enough to derive much about the missile.
Your best bet is asking over in the British Weapon System thread for specific sources. Flame most likely has the most
This is Flame’s Breakdown of the ASRAAM from the sources he has:
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Just out of curiosity, why wasn’t there a dev-blog or dev-post on the first flight of the P-47 Thunderbolt on May 6th? No decal or sale or special vehicle yet we’ve had them for the Zero, the Yak, the Spitfire, and so many other aircraft. Just recently we have had…
The FFA P-16 had a whole post on its first flight anniversary on May 2nd.
The A6M5 and A6M2 had a whole post on its first flight anniversary on April 1st.
The He 219 A-7 got one on March 26th.
The German La-5FNs was also on March 26th.
Yet the P-47 didnt despite being like the second most prevalent/copy-and-pasted WW2 fighter (after the P-51, I think) there was nothing.
The AIM-9X does a 180 turn quicker than the MICA IR, R-74, Python 5, and likely the ASRAAM, and has a higher gimbal limit than the MICA IR and R-74. I do agree that it’s kind of pointless to add anything other than a Block II or III AIM-9X with the rest, and really a Block I AIM-9X should’ve been added last update or something.
Do you have a source for that?
Most likely yes, because ASRAAM was designed to be extremely fast off the rails. Faster you go, the larger the turning radius. But ASRAAM was designed for “shoot first, kill first” and not dogfighting
Again, really no. Unless it was added to every single current Aim-9M placeholder user, it would be a huge advantage if it was US only and just destroy top tier, just like F-16C and Mig-29SMT getting IRCCM before everyone else did
Do you have sources on that ?
First of all, the gimbal limits of the MICA IR are probably not correct in game, although no exact sources are available to context that as of now. It will probably be lower than the AIM9X tho, but the MICA can rely on the datalink of the plane.
To be fair it’s true for most longer range missiles.
I do agree with that. The gap between the AIM9X and current missiles is probably at least as big as say between the AIM9M and the AIM9L
Also just has a precision the Magic 2 also got its IRCCM added at the same time as the two missiles arrived
I mean, they cant be. MICA IR is not in the game.
Probably won’t be is what I wanted to say 😅
Dont we have the ± 60 value?
Isn’t it for the EM only ?
I’ll have to look again actually
No, we dont know EM at all.
It’s in the Modern IR thread?
But when you compare the 9M to the R-73, PL-8B, or even Magic 2 the gap is about the same to the AIM-9X (30G vs 40G vs 50G)
That is largely based off secondary sources that probably wouldn’t be reportable. It’s great for a general comparison, but I’d not necessarily base what they’ll be like when added on that
Perhaps, but just because r73 and magic II is better in a dogfight than Aim-9M doesn’t mean that now the US can be better in dogfight with aim9x.
Also the only issue with Aim-9Ms that truly affects the current balance is their ahistorical lock ranges. With that fix, they’d be fine. I do consider them balanced though, just they have different strengths and weaknesses
Except the US (and nations with only the 9M) only have 30G IR missiles and have to use AIM-120As/Bs for dogfighting due to them having more pull, even though the MICA and R-77/-1 pull harder.
Yeah, again though. That’s just where you have to play the aircraft right.
Typhoon I stick at range as best I can rather than being dragged into a dogfight and then when they can be added. They can give everyone gen 5 IRs rather than just giving the US aim-9X b1
There’s a MICA IR seeker datasheet floating around online somewhere which confirms its gimbal limits are ±60°.
ASRAAM & AIM-9X are ±90°.
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cool. German 3rd rank scout when?😋