No. The missiles are rigorously identical beside the seeker. Same warhead, same body, same motor…
So, this being Gaijin, Take a MICA EM and slap an IRCCM IR seeker to it, thats what you’ll get :P
They’ll probably increase the drag as well.
I also would say that the MICA currently has too much drag. I doubt it’s able to reach 80km (even if we don’t count the 50km hard limit it currently has, it’s already barely supersonic at this range) with any energy at all. I would guess either direct drag or wobbling due to TVC, but if this was « fixed », then I guess Mach 4.5 would be fairly achievable without major changes
We’ll have to wait and see.
That is also both the blessing and curse for ASRAAM.
Its the only gen 5 that doesnt use TVC, so should avoid the TVC bugs but… It does use dual-plane, which they refuse to model. So might end up hugely nerfed
They are heavily underselling that shall we say
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It is really wierd how much MBDA do that. They short sell both its range and speed by quite a bit
But, would you happen to have any source that corroborates that ?
Not a trick question here. I’m sincerely curious.
I’m used to MBDA underselling stuff. Heck, every time we find something new on French hardware it’s through other primary sources, like the one for the top speed of the MICA
Speed and Time to Intercept have always been the number one thing advertised for ASRAAM, the label of mach 3+ is simply to not give the game away.
Well, if you don’t mind me, that does say a whole lot of not much.
There’s nothing much that can be derived from highest speed and quickest intercept.
Highest speed compared to what ? All AAM ? All MBDA AAM, or all British MBDA AAM ? Max speed ? Average speed ?
Quickest time to intercept, at what ranges ? Compared to what (once again) ?
Even if Mach 3+ is an understatement (which I agree is a given, considering the aerodynamic and size of the missile), I don’t think this source specifically is anywhere close to conclusive enough to derive much about the missile.
Your best bet is asking over in the British Weapon System thread for specific sources. Flame most likely has the most
This is Flame’s Breakdown of the ASRAAM from the sources he has:
Spoiler
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Just out of curiosity, why wasn’t there a dev-blog or dev-post on the first flight of the P-47 Thunderbolt on May 6th? No decal or sale or special vehicle yet we’ve had them for the Zero, the Yak, the Spitfire, and so many other aircraft. Just recently we have had…
The FFA P-16 had a whole post on its first flight anniversary on May 2nd.
The A6M5 and A6M2 had a whole post on its first flight anniversary on April 1st.
The He 219 A-7 got one on March 26th.
The German La-5FNs was also on March 26th.
Yet the P-47 didnt despite being like the second most prevalent/copy-and-pasted WW2 fighter (after the P-51, I think) there was nothing.
The AIM-9X does a 180 turn quicker than the MICA IR, R-74, Python 5, and likely the ASRAAM, and has a higher gimbal limit than the MICA IR and R-74. I do agree that it’s kind of pointless to add anything other than a Block II or III AIM-9X with the rest, and really a Block I AIM-9X should’ve been added last update or something.
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Do you have a source for that?
Most likely yes, because ASRAAM was designed to be extremely fast off the rails. Faster you go, the larger the turning radius. But ASRAAM was designed for “shoot first, kill first” and not dogfighting
Again, really no. Unless it was added to every single current Aim-9M placeholder user, it would be a huge advantage if it was US only and just destroy top tier, just like F-16C and Mig-29SMT getting IRCCM before everyone else did
Do you have sources on that ?
First of all, the gimbal limits of the MICA IR are probably not correct in game, although no exact sources are available to context that as of now. It will probably be lower than the AIM9X tho, but the MICA can rely on the datalink of the plane.
To be fair it’s true for most longer range missiles.
I do agree with that. The gap between the AIM9X and current missiles is probably at least as big as say between the AIM9M and the AIM9L
Also just has a precision the Magic 2 also got its IRCCM added at the same time as the two missiles arrived
I mean, they cant be. MICA IR is not in the game.
Probably won’t be is what I wanted to say 😅
Dont we have the ± 60 value?
Isn’t it for the EM only ?
I’ll have to look again actually
No, we dont know EM at all.
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