Lost market profits lol, as if they would earn even a fraction of the amounts they get from packs like the F-4S through the handful of high value marketplace sales.
A lot of previous event vehicles should have been tech tree vehicles and there are bound to be some slightly different variants that can be added to the tech tree.
In case of the event premiums, literally just slap a different camo on them and sell them for GE under a different name.
Console and DMM never had a market to begin with.
You are extremely wrong when it comes to how much do they earn from marketplace. Gaijin takes 15% profit from each transaction that is made on the marketplace. Do you know how much is it? There are hundreds of transactions made on the marketplace each day. Some people buy the vehicles to play them, some buy them to sell them later on at higher price, or some others just want a nice camo. Regardless of whatever it is, gajin takes 15% of that.
If you sum up all of the transactions ever made on the marketplace and then deduct 85% from it, you will see what gajin earned from the marketplace just from tax.
But also remember that anything that players get back from marketplace for selling something is not in real money anymore, but in GJN, which essentially locks all of this money in gajin ecosystem and forces players to reinvest it into the game, so even that 85% comes back to the snail anyway.
So technically Snail makes from the marketplace equivalent of every single GJN that was ever respresented in the form of anything listed on the marketplace.
It’s a ridiculous amount of money.
I won’t argue it is as much as they make from pack sales or GE premiums, because it’s probably not as much, but it’s still millions of dollars each year. Telling Gajin to simply let all of these millions of dollars go is ridiculous
“The upcoming Battle Pass should be a nice one too, it includes a vehicle I’ve been waiting for for a while which you should see very soon. This one is also a bit different and includes something of a wildcard, I think you’ll like it.”
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It’s company scrip, only spendable at the company store. Anything coined in GJN is meaningless in terms of true economic value because they created all the GJN themselves and can create as much or as little as they want. Otherwise you’d also have to count all the GJN that people convert back for store purchases rather than pay real money, as a loss, as well.
The only value to the market to Gaijin is the degree to which it does or does not increase the amount of net GJN purchases by players from the store (which could be in the millions, it’s unknown).
It is a money earner or they wouldn’t do it, but they don’t make money from individual sales in that sense. All the 15% vigorish on transactions does is steadily remove GJN from the overall company scrip capitalization, to balance the value that’s added to the market when new coupons, chests, etc. are earned and posted. Otherwise they’d have runaway GJN inflation as the GJN would never disappear except as store GJN-to-dollar conversions.
When can we get the opinion to punish teamkiller by kicking him from match?
I know they don’t make money directly from sales on marketplace, but by steadly removing GJN from ecosystem, gajin forces players to replenish it by paying them. Which is how they make money from the marketplcae.
Thus indirectly they actually do cut a share from each transaction. For each GJN that is represented on the marketplace someone had to pay real money
I just tried to make it a bit more simple
They didn’t though. Every coupon on the market earned through play and every randomly dropped update box that players post also adds a specific quantity of GJN to that net capitalization. A significant portion of that net value, possibly even the majority, would be conversions of player effort to GJN, which is what they need to continuously draw down through the 15% transaction fee.
Every time they cut a new coupon or box drop, Gaijin are pouring a bunch of new company scrip into that microeconomy that no one paid for. Without knowing how much of that added printing of money comes from GJN sales and how much comes from adding new vehicles, and how much GJN is sitting as cash in people’s accounts as well, there’s no way to make a correspondence to any actual real-world capitalization.
Since the money only finally leaves through store sales, transaction sales, or players converting coupons into playable vehicles, another way to look at it is those millions in GJN are all debts Gaijin owes players on their company balance sheet, with the transaction fees steadily drawing those debts down, not assets.
I meant the GJN on players’ accounts, not everything in coupons, as coupons that weren’t sold yet didn’t provide gajin with real money.
Obviously every gajin is a sort of debt Gajin has towards player, but it still makes it back to them. Normally if you sell something, you can do whatever you want with money.
But if you sell something on the marketplace, you can only use it to buy something from gajin. So if you sell a 100GJN vehicle, it’s like someone else who bought it from you, paid 100$ for your 85$ shopping in gajin store and 15$ were left to the Snail.
Anyways, the money ends in Gajin’s hands. Of course Gajin just gave away 85$ worth of goods, but they’ve still made 100$.
Marketplace doesn’t necesarilly make them as much money as other things, but no one should argue it brings hardly any profit, because it’s just wrong.
Of course this course of actions was very simplified, you can buy stuff for gajin you got from selling other stuff, you can buy stuff from Gajin for those GJN, not just spend it on the marketplace, but regardless of that, in the end, Gajin always makes more than it has to pay back in “debt”.
That’s how they make it profitable
They made the 100 dollars when someone decided to buy 100 GJN, the sales fee on the market is basically them cutting their losses when it comes to people using the GJN they got from the market to buy keys or store stuff.
They don’t “earn” anything through market sales.
This was a simplification. They make money when you buy GJN to buy other things. But whenever anything is being bought on the market, someone had to insert that GJN into the economy. If anyone buys that 100GJN vehicle from you, someone must’ve first paid for that GJN to get into economy.
Even if the person who bought the vehicle from you didn’t buy them, if they got these GJN, someone else must’ve bought them to buy something else from them. Anyway, it’s impossible for any GJN on any player’s account to exist without someone somehow paying for that.
And that 15% tax they put on each transaction just cuts their “debt” towards players. If there was no tax, they would be forced to give back in other digital goods as much as they got from the sale of vehicle, which would mean no profit. But with the tax in place, they earn 100$ but only give back 85
Simply not true, I’m afraid. Player A may have dozens of coupons they earned through play in their inventory, plus dozens more update boxes they earned through drops. Those are sellable at any time. You could post them for an amount so inflated so no one would buy them at that price and put them “on the market” and keep them there indefinitely and outside you inventory if you wanted, so whether there’s an entry for them on the market, or they’re just in your inventory to look at, is meaningless. Until they are converted to a playable vehicle they are still part of the market capitalization and redeemable in GJN. Gaijin made no money on those coupons at all. Zero. So on any real balance sheet it’s all counted as a debt.
When anything is sold on the market gajin already earned money from that.
Not when it is put out for sale. Only when someone actually buys it
Again, maybe i didn’t precise it enough. By gajin on players’ accounts, i meant GJN as a currency, not inside of any coupons or anything
I wouldn’t call it that, considering every single GJN is 1$ (or 1€ for the unfortunate) worth of real money someone already spent
You don’t redeem anything, you sell to someone else that already paid Gaijin.
There is no debt involved. If you buy GJN your money is gone. GJN has no real world value.
Even without a sales fee they would still make money by selling GJN. The sales fee literally only exists to mitigate people using the market as a trading platform.
This is exactly what i mean. And then gajin gives you back 15% less than they originally got from the buyer. That’s how they make money from marketplace
If you treat marketplace as an economy there kind of is. GJN is sort of a debt that Gajin owes to a player who has that currency, since it allows you to redeem anything from gajin store at a said value. You spending your Gajin coins for anything from them directly makes them earn nothing from this one sale, they make. that’s why this is sort of a debt
15% less, but also Gaijin Coins rather than real money. It’s in game currency not much different from GE or SL. The money spent on WT, stays in WT.
That’s what i spoke about in my other comments. That’s what i meant with those 85% they don’t tax coming back to gajin anyway.
Once someone buys anything from you on the marketplace, this money will not go anywhere else, thus Snail comes out on top in each transaction.
Any money put into gajin stays with the snail, they just are forced to give you back some of it in the form of digital goods from their game
No it isn’t though. Not in any way.
I have never spent real money for one solid GJN. But I have purchased hundreds of dollars worth of product from both store and marketplace cashing in coupons I earned or was dropped. The value I added to the market by earning those coupons is reflected in the net money supply of the GJN microeconomy for M × V = P × T purposes. I don’t want to get into ECON 101 stuff here, but that’s really what it is.
What people are calling a 15% profit is more like a 15% depreciation, from an accountant’s perspective.
Yeah, you never did, but someone who bought these vehicles from you did. Like if there were vehicles you could sell for GJN, but no one ever bought a single GJN, how could any transaction be made? Someone first needs to pay for the GJN in the form of currency to exist