CLOVIS in the Simulator Battles Lineup 8_2

It simply shouldn’t be there. A 5 second reload HEAT-slinger with Laser Rangefinder that’s fast and has good gun handling isn’t balanced in this lineup, as there isn’t a single counterpart to this on the red team. DF105 is also questionable, since it’s natural counterpart is the Obj.906 which isn’t in the red team lineup.
To see what the CLOVIS fights, use this tool here: WTLineup

TLDR: CLOVIS doesn’t belong in this lineup, it should be removed for balance sake immediately.

Clovis is undertiered AF.

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Agreed. Vehicles of comparable capabilities are often 0.7BR higher, if not more. It doesn’t matter it’s not HEATFS, on the contrary, it’s 105 HEAT does very good damage. It often one-shots even things like IS-4M, which is a problem in a Sim loadout characteristic of heavy tanks. It fights tanks with APHE that can’t detonate on it’s paper thin armor too…and as said, same goes for the DF-105 minus the LRF.

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HEAT breaks the armour meta of that BR range and its got a coax spamcanon to kill everything with less than 40mm of armour with ease. Im shocked that they are so rare considering what they are capable of

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yeah no looking at the lineup the clovis & DF105 absolutely mog red side. i’m suprised theirs no amx13-90 for france for this lineup considering the AML is fine and it’s a bit of a downgrade to the DF that matches the era better

Having played a few games, the DF105s were devastating our team until they “died out” or became over–extended and then also died. It’s ridiculous how much better the DF105s are compared to anything in red team, and like in RB nowadays - speed, reload time and reaction times also play a big role in Sim which is full of city maps. The CLOVIS is just one step above, basically being a DF105 with LRF and 20mm autocannon makes it that much more OP. It should be only in Lineup 8_2_2, where it is at least kind of balanced, along with the DFs.

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PT-76-57 should be 8_2_2 as well

Honestly? Not really. At least at this lower BR it meets much more armored targets which it cannot pen frontally, unlike in 8_2_2. Plus seeing one is very rare, they’re basically collector vehicles.

Laser rangefinder, stabilized rapid firing 57mm gun… I say it is pretty solid counterpart to CLOVIS.