Churchill Mk. III - Red Winston

Would you like to see the Soviet Churchill Mk. III added?
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Churchill Mk III “Alexander Nevskiy” of the 49th Separate Heavy Guards Breakthrough Tank Regiment traverses a snowy road near Leningrad in 1944


History
In 1942, the Soviet Union was desperate for heavy tanks to counter the German panzers. The British sent 301 Churchill tanks, mostly Mk. III and Mk. IV models. When they first rolled off the ships at the Arctic ports of Murmansk and Archangel, Soviet engineers were impressed by the sheer thickness of the armor.

At the time, the Churchill had thicker frontal plating than almost anything the Soviets were producing, including their own KV-1. However, the Soviets were less impressed by the 6-pounder gun. While it was accurate and fast-firing, it lacked a high-explosive shell early on, which made it difficult for crews to deal with German anti-tank guns and infantry.

The Churchill earned its reputation during some of the most brutal fighting of the war. Most notably, they were assigned to the 47th and 48th Guards Heavy Tank Regiments.

During the Soviet counter-offensive at Stalingrad, these tanks were used as breakthrough vehicles. Because the Churchill had a specialized heavy suspension, it could climb steep slopes that German tanks and even some Soviet tanks struggled with. On several occasions, Churchills surprised German defenders by appearing at the top of hills or ravines that were thought to be impassable.

By the time the Battle of Kursk rolled around in 1943, the Churchill was showing its age. While the armor was still decent, the German Tigers and Panthers could now pierce it from a distance.

Soviet crews had a love-hate relationship with the machine. They loved the protection and the fact that it was mechanically reliable if you treated it well. However, they hated the narrow tracks in deep mud and the fact that the side sponsons tended to trap dirt and rocks, which could jam the tracks.

By 1944, the Soviets stopped requesting Churchills. They had perfected their own heavy tank, the IS-2, which had a massive 122mm gun that far outclassed the British 6-pounder. The remaining Churchills were used in secondary sectors or for training until the end of the war.

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Specifications

General Information

  • Origin: United Kingdom
  • USSR Received: 301 sent (approx. 253-258 arrived)
  • Crew: 5

Dimensions

  • Length: 7.44 meters (24 feet 5 inches)
  • Width: 3.25 meters (10 feet 8 inches)
  • Height: 2.49 meters (8 feet 2 inches)
  • Weight: 39.6 tons (approx. 87,000 lbs)

Armament

  • Main Gun: 57mm Ordnance QF 6-pounder Mk III
  • Ammunition Capacity: 84 rounds
  • Effective Range: 1,000 meters (1,094 yards)
  • Secondary Armament: 2 x 7.92mm Besa machine guns (one coaxial, one hull-mounted)
  • Ammunition Capacity: 4,950 rounds

Armor

  • Hull Front: 89mm
  • Hull Sides: 64mm
  • Turret Front: 89mm

Mobility

  • Engine: Bedford 12-cylinder gasoline engine (350 hp)
  • Top Speed: 24 km/h (15 mph) on roads / 13 km/h (8 mph) off-road
  • Range: 145 km (90 miles)
  • Transmission: Merritt-Brown 4-speed manual (plus reverse)

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Be sure to check out my lend leased Churchill Mk. IV post

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More Soviet lend lease equipment when Gaijin


Sources

Tank Archives: Lend Lease Impressions: Churchill
Churchill tank - Wikipedia
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/4btpxe/churchill_mk_iii_alexander_nevskiy_of_the_49th/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/mupv3i/soviet_churchill_premium_when/

Mr president. Another USSR suggestion for other people’s stuff has hit the forum
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No end in sight

If they get it then no longer will it be inflated by British players but it means russian players will play it and it will actually get its issues fixed and maybe even its missing APHE

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I suppose it would be somewhat neat, I mean, the Soviets did have like 1/2 of all the Mk IIIs produced delivered to them. Take a tentative +1

When I read up on how many Matilda’s they used I was surprised the basic one wasn’t in the research tree

So much power on whether it gets passed with votes or not

Please STOP already, i beg you.
Can’t you suggest a russian vehicle? Or modified one from someone else? Or even something they bought?
Russia can have tons of their own interesting tanks and planes, there is NO need for tank that is literally exact same tank that other nations have.

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These vehicles were intended to be used by the Red Army. Sent under lease from Britain straight to Murmansk or Arkhangelsk, they’re the second largest operator of it. Same goes for the Matilda with the 2-pounder and a few others iirc.

I wish. The polls simply get ignored by Gajin.

Which makes sense, not even a fraction of the community use the forums.

The forums form a pretty diverse group of players. The only group that isn’t really represented is noobs, which is good.

The forums provides a good representation of the WT community (especially compared to Steam forums or Reddit). There would be no point in having polls otherwise.

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Yeah but letting a couple hundred users decide if something is added or not can be exploited. Theres also many other factors to take into account such as biases etc.

I think this nickname was used for M3 tanks not for Churchills.

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Good catch, thanks.

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Ok my last post got removed so…-1 there is sixty-billion Object and prototypes to add instead of these copy paste ones.

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It is really tiring seeing one after another lend lease or captured tank of USSR, is not like their TT is super lackluster.

What did you suggest btw?

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I don’t do a lot of suggestions, I have one pending for making the WW1 vehicles event and viable for grinding out events(not that anyone’s using the H.P.12 to grind a CnP F-16 event)

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Many of the interesting objects have already been suggested and some of the prototypes don’t offer anything to the tree. Leased vehicles are something new to the tree which apparently was confirmed awhile back in a Q&A that we would see a lot of them as event or premiums, see them every so slowly drip fed into the tree which confirms that.
Enlisted last year got the Soviet Matilda II Mk III which surely will make its way to War Thunder at some point.
I have plenty of domestic Russian vehicles awaiting approval, one of which I’m sure people will hate XD

Remind me: what does the churchill have the KV-1(L-11) doesn’t? Oh right…nothing. The Churchill doesn’t offer anything to the tree. It’s another 3.7/4.0 heavy tank for a very populated TT

for the record, I will +1 anything unique to the tree, from another KV-7 to a BMPT. I just have a problem with CnP

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