Chinese Coastal Tree

Very sure a modern anti-ship missile can kill a battleship with one missile. Those high tier costal boats look so much more powerful then those in bluewater fleet.

Sadly, it never will. Most of anti-ship missiles are developed in era when battleships are all decomissioned and not target for them, and while some of soviet heavy anti-ship missiles were aimed for US Navy carrier, they are more lightly armored than battleships, and will not be sunk by one missile(according to US Navy itself, they expect at least dozen missiles needed)

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The Modern one like the one developed after the 2000s that can go over 1000KM while being bigger then a modern MBT or an Aircraft carrying 750 kg of TNT… Welp Ofcourse they can’t pentrate the armor above water those missles dive down the water once close enough and explode right under the ship causing it to Sink or even worse when it hit the ammo storage.

What kind of science fiction you are reading for…
The last missile with 750 kg warhead(Do note that not 750 kg of TNT), was Granit, which was developed decades ago.
Also, there are no such anti-ship missile that dive down to the water and explode under the ship. You’re confusing with heavy torpedo that are launched by modern submarine.

Common trend of anti-ship missile is focusing on paralyzing the combat system, not sinking entire ship, which is not a good thing or war thunder as it is easy to repair.

They use RDX,HMX and PBX those type of things which is stronger then TNT.

Enough to make a ship unusable. Modern ships dosen’t have armor which is gonna make it easier to destory when hit. In War thunder… it basically gonna make the ship slow as hell and probaly lost most of it crews. Let say it hit the engine bay then water flood in quickly which happens alot in WT therefore your ship became slower or immobile. Impossible to be fixed aswell.

Anyway, no such big TNTe even.

And you’re talking about battleship.

What I’ve meant of paralyzing, is having proximity fuze, and only make radar and bridge above hull unusable. ‘Sinking’ ship would be done by bomb or torpedo afterward. Such tactic is effective in real life, but not in war thunder.

So, which missile in your imagination can penetrate engine room of battleship after penetrating armor?

Both pretty much. But I don’t really think gaijin will really put them together…

It pretty much only Russian missle but I don’t know wether I can trust it or not some still under development. Some just special torpedoes.

They did on Mobile. But I guess they have quite different damage models for ships. They also have also implemented Pr. 903 and S
submarines so naval combat is a lot more different.

As someone mentioned before those missiles are not Anti Battleships so it is questionable how much of a threat they would pose to its hull, everything on deck and above would be a lot more susceptible to damage. Maybe it is more about their precision and speed? We will see.

Adding proper missile ships will also make Chinese Navy more competitive.

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I assume the Hainan (late) refers to this? Maybe it should be renamed as the Haijiu class as is its NATO reporting name since its a major modification from the original Type 037 Hainan class.

Anyways, there also seems to be a Type 053H2G Jiangwei I class frigate turned over to the Sri Lankan Navy but was refitted into the OPV role (which means it has no missiles). The SLNS Parakramabahu (P351) served as the flagship of the Sri Lankan Navy until the 2000s, be aware when researching it though, it seems the wikipedia page for it is wrong, it lists the same armaments that can be found on the Type 037I submarine chasers where some were also transferred to the Sri Lankan Navy.

Anyways, this could be a really good opportunity for a modern PLAN frigate to appear in-game currently as it has no missiles but retained the rest of its weaponry retaining the fore 1x twin 100mm guns and 4x twin 37mm AA guns - vastly superior armament compared to its Coast Guard cousin which only has 4x twin 25mm AA guns.

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The Shanghai II design could also probably be foldered into the Shanghai I class. Could copy Timor-Leste’s Jaco Class Patrol Boat designation with it having 2x 30mm guns, and 2x twin 25mm guns.

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@UnknownVariable
Check out my previous post at ( Chinese Coastal Tree - #55 by bbbdddaaa )
Jintang(2201, 金塘), got the 25mm cannons; the other two got 37mm cannons

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I added a new boat

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As of right now most of the poll responses want to put it at 1.3 and have the 12.7mm machine gun as default and the 14.5 as researchable;
i’ll assume it would be located between yulin and hai ou in the gunboat line.
But who knows, it might end up in the ground forces TT since it belongs to the ground force :)

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neat, i’d put it at 1.7 and after the hai ou. also i was about to add nan’ao and huangshi foldered but my stupid ass lost the file 😭

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Guys, good news about Chinese naval tech tree.
In WTM’s recent update, PLAN’s type 053H frigate was added as some kind of bonus rewards for joining the Chinese groud tech tree early access in WTM.
Glad that I’m the first person to mention it on the forum, since dataminer and those who always keep their eyes on the WTM news website are usually faster than me
It’s a good news since it shows Gaijin has started their progress to working on the Chinese naval techtree that will get into WT in the future. And it’s even more exciting that the first Chinese ship Gaijin released was a missile frigate.



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That’s great news;
which 053H though? Xiamen(厦门, 515), Nanping(南平, 517), Nantong(南通, 511), Huai’an(淮安, 513), Ji’an(吉安, 518, Ex-512), Wuxi(无锡, 512), Zhenjiang(镇江, 514), Shaoxing(绍兴, 510), Changde(常德, 509), Changzhi(长治, 519), 520, Maoming(茂名, 551) or Yibin(宜宾,552)?
I’m excluding Jiujiang(九江, 516, Ex-Changsha(长沙)) since it had rocket 5x50 122mm rocket launchers and likely would be seperate

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Opps, my bad, checked your datamine discord and the WTM datamine channel has not yet update. Seems this time those who keeps spying on the news still wins!

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Just…type 053H. Just like some classes of cold war or modern ships in WTM, if the modelling doesn’t have hull number or any characteristic that can distinguished her from her sisters, Gaijin usually only give her the class name. But if one day this beauty comes into War Thunder, than she would most likely be given the name from those ordinary type 053H you mentioned above, and of course it would not be 九江 since the type 053H in game didn’t have such modification.

Yeah that’s why i prefer normal war thunder :)

I hope jiujiang(九江, 516) can be added as a seperate vehicle, it’s rocket launchers would be so unique
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FYI it’s now a museum in it’s namesake city

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