Chinese Air-To-Air missiles, History, Performance & Discussion

Thats what gnss does im not saying it does nothing, im saying nobody tested if it does anything with datalink(ehich it really doesnt make sense it should).

2 way datalink of the 120d is somewhat prrsent on the aim9x block 2 ingame

Slm too

Technically it does. because of 0 deviation the missile doesn’t lose as much energy trying to turn and hit the target

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Have you tried with other missiles? Fox 3 with datalink were always one of the best ways to take out helis

It should be 0 deviation regardless when providing datalink

That’s… not what that means.

If you’re receiving datalink updates, it’ll go where the target is going to be. The moment it stops, that’s when the deviation (if not AIM-120D/PL-12A) begins.

Yes ive tried with all of them and it does make a difference

Its exactly what it means, also iog drift needs time to take effect if its without midcourse for a few second iog drift should be negligible.

Proof?

It really isn’t 😅 IOG+DL doesn’t have any drift if you’re actively guiding it in until seeker is active/tracking.

It’s when you launch and turn around before the seeker is active that the deviation starts.

Remember; active datalink updates = missile goes straight anyway because you’re constantly updating the target’s location and feeding it to the missile. If you stop, it’ll go roughly in the same area/direction, but with AIM-120D it’ll go exactly where they were with no deviation at all.

This is very simple

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Thats what im saying

Not home rn
And its been a couple months since ive actually played ground i might still have some clips not entirely sure but i can check later
But something that i can remember when playing the rafale against helis my mica if i ended up losing radar tws lock and then regain lock the missile would be off course and wouldn’t relock the target compared to when i played the j15t i would launch my pl 12a and the lose tws lock and regain couple seconds later the missile would snap back to the target if it was off course

datalink isn’t instant-updates from my observations.

there’s a delay which allows IOG drift to make the missile waste energy or miss completely

On all radars or just ESA? Feels “instant” enough (on AESAs, Russian PESAs too) to me, tbh

Unless the delay is several tens of seconds the deviation would be negligible at best

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On esa it pretty much is.

But that doesn’t even matter cause the aim-120 can’t hit targets at all when up close below like 6km if fired from off bore

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you can just stay in the notch and spam them at something from a bit further away that way you are a bit more save when they are going to shoot down your missiles anyways

That is not an effective tactic, the missiles take too long to get in a turn for them to get a hit the enemies wouldve have to fly directly at it.

shooting down enemy missiles isnt an effective tactic either and yet ppl are doing it

I mean its pretty effective when you have 10/12 missiles and dont mind wasting one to be more offensive.
Also extremely easy. Also you could do it a long time ago too: https://youtu.be/SbdqnF2G0YQ it just became trivial with newer radEs

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