China Norinco VT series MBTs, History, Performance & Discussion

Now it sounds like some 40 year old dude’s name

It’s named after the Prophet’s companion Hazrat Ali (R.A) one of the greatest Warriors of his time. Never thought a Bengali can get this immature.

Never expected this answer from you.I thought you would take it as a joke.
Also Haider is a common name for people born in the 70s and 80s.If you want to name something after a special person then you should write his name in the correct way.Al Haider would have been more respectful and appropriate. Also why do you have to point out my ethnicity?

You do realize Religious figures are sensitive topics right? Was pointing out your ethnicity cus you guys are normally aware about it.

How am I supposed to know whether if it’s named after a religious figure? Most people dont know Hazrat Ali as Haider.If they used Al Haider as the name then it would have made sense that it was named after some religious figure.

If you want to continue this topic you can DM me.

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Is it a official brochure or something like that for MBT-2000?

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It look like a magazine.

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So uhhh… with the update dropping and the datamines dropped, anybody got information on whether the gutting of the MBT 2000 is realistic or more anti-China bias? Like the NERA KE multiplier dropped from 1.125 to a whole 0.625. The UFP of this tank can barely even stop it’s own 125-I in literally 1 spot now. I was super hyped for this tank, but wow, it doesn’t even seem better than the 96A’s since you become even more fragile…

I heard the composite armor of this tank is some what comparable to western MBTs.So I think it should have good survivability.


IMO, the MBT-2000 in the game is definitely at least unfinished.
This very bug happens on the whole upper part of its UFP.
And I submitted an issue for that already.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cIweZENbL92F

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Clicked. ^^

Speaking of bugs, would you like to help me with the texture bug for Ztz99a?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/gP0kot8QW0p5

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I have the tank, and have played a few games in it. Ignore the penetration model, the tank has good armor, and can tanks many shots frontally.

This has been my experience too. While the armor view in the hanger might lead you too believe that the UFP is paper, it actually seems to be quiet trolly in matches as the high angle leads too ricochets as it should. Still tho if the armor is underperforming than it should be made realistic. Either way the tank is very fun too play and while I suspect it’s BR will go up too 10.3, I think it we remain a very fun tank.

It also has me excited for other Chinese MBT’s and modern vehicles soon to help fill up the ranks. I’m particularly excited for the VT-4 and if I remember correctly wasn’t something about it datamined a while ago?

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Thx man!

Also clicked for you, let’s make the game better little by little. <3

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Yeah Protection analysis and armor in a actual match is often quite different for most vehicles.

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Honestly, raising the BR to 10.3 would be pointless. From my experience 10.0 basically doesn’t exist anymore, unless you get a full downtier, you are almost always in a 10.3 match anyways. Couple that with the fact that China has literally no 10.3 vehicle, means it would be a pointless nerf and a nerf to 10.7 would be too much.

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Id generally agree, but if you look at it just prefromance wise, I feel it’s easy too argue that the MBT-2000/VT-1 is definitely a better tank overall than the ZTZ-96A. But at the same time I would agree that it doesn’t really deserve a BR I crease as it would be by itself as. 10.3 vehicle. Personally I’m hoping that china quickly gets more vehicles such as the VT-5/Type 15 light tank around 10.3 and a new SPAA that can help fill the ranks between the PGZ-04 and the Tor. I’m also praying that China gets some better CAS options beyond the Q-5L and current F-16, as all these additions would help china have a fully flushed lineup, and give more players an incentive to play the nation

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JH-7 should do the job

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For sure, I hope we get it or another CAS platform for China before the year ends. Also I hope we see the VT-4 sooner than later, and same with a new SPAA. The VT-4 has the potential too be a very competitive tank even at 11.7 given it’s stats, and would be a very nice backup too the ZTZ-99A

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