J-15T is a 9.3 aircraft at heart
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Not really it has the ability to defend missiles well due to its airframe sure lacks countermeasures but if you are aware of that then you can play around it, It has good IR missiles especially with its airframe, and the vehicle carries a good amount of missiles as well along side the fact that while they aren’t the best pl-12 missiles just aren’t that bad even if they are having issues.
PL-12s can be outrolled and no one will take you seriously in BVR or jousting if they see you flying a chinese aircraft
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I literally have been playing matches and killing people in joust with the pl-12 and I suck at air rb.
i never use it and do fine, literally just notch and dry missiles of their energy.
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It’s crazy that you speak so confidently about these jets when you haven’t played any of them.
What are you talking about? The J-10C is a bad dogfighter, it is a castrated version of the J-10A with mid missiles mid avionics and low CM (for its BR ofc).
And the J-15 is unplayable. I don’t know what to tell you.
fym airframe?? should I top gun the missile?
Not really, the statcard lies. It has never pulled 40G, it is barely faster than the PL5EII and in most situations is worse.
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What he genuinely expects me to do when a Mach 4 mica is coming for me.
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If you have a good airframe you can pull and sustain harder G’s while keeping energy high in order to rapidly dodge missiles in quick succession I.E. you can notch longer and harder against missiles, if you can’t kill with PL-8’s that a massive yikes goated missile especially with the funny button and hmd.
Yeah it’s a joke really.
U have F18 early with 12.3 ground BR… and F18 late is 12.7 so basically identical
What was the point again of ground BR’s if they never used them.
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^^^^This will happen…only a matter of time! CM Disclosure from 2025. With them testing the ECM on the B52 and Tu95, ECM is probably closer then we think.
I do give it a moderately good chance of being something we see next major update
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By far the worst airframe at 14.7 by a mile lmao.
The guy has played the J-11B and now thinks he has any idea how it is to play the J-15T lol.
And the J-15T is none of this at 14.7 lol. What you are describing fits the EFTs and Rafale, not the J-15T.
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may its not so bad but its obviously not a good one. i mean the J15t 😕
The PL-12’s structure is similar to the AIM-120, so it’s unreasonable to assume the PL-12’s maneuverability is far superior. However, based on wing area and paper overload, the PL-12’s maneuverability is at least slightly better than the AIM-120. Slightly reducing the PL-12’s maneuverability, perhaps to the level of the AAM-4 or Derby, would be acceptable (of course, the best approach would be to enhance the AIM-120’s maneuverability, but clearly, the Gaijin wouldn’t do that).
However, the current problem is that the PL-12’s lever arm length has been reduced from its best to far below average, and its PID has become extremely conservative. The PL-12’s maximum usable overload in actual combat is now lower than that of the AIM-120D. The PL-12’s maneuverability has gone from the best among conventional layout missiles to the worst. Coupled with the fact that the PL-12’s range is only better than the R-77 and MICA, how can this be accepted?
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The J-15T has worse energy retention and pulls less than the J-11B. Do you know the J-15T?
Harder?
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This should NOT be put in the same sentence.
The J-10C is one of the slowest aircraft to accelerate at higher altitudes for its BR. The J-15T suffers from similar issues, but loses almost all of said energy if you try to enter a notch.
You have not played either the J-10C nor J-15T, you do not understand how these vehicles actually play.
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In a air realistic topic
From 3rd best fox 3 to pl1.2g pull
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They can tinker with those two aircraft (J10C and J15T) as much as they want, but they’ll still be bad. The problem with the countermeasures only has one way to solve it.
In addition to the countermeasures, the J10C has other serious problems such as drag and fuel quantity/consumption, as well as the mediocre performance of the WS10.
The J15T is much “easier” to fix; they just need to improve the WS10’s performance at high altitudes and give the aircraft more CM (a slight improvement to the radar would also help).
But CMs are fundamental.
And what way is that?