China does not possess a single competitive vehicle above 14.0

[black_man4187]

@codehitman22-psn

10c easily one of the most powerful top tier aircraft thanks to its high maneuverability

have you ever touched the j-10C? or any top tier China jet?

[black_man4187]

@codehitman22-psn

and you complain and ask gaijin for more cm’s on the j15t which isn’t even possible cause more cm’s don’t exist

We want ECM its, 2026. We have Eurofighters, JAS39E, Su-30SM2, but still no ECM. How does Gaijin expect to add PL-15, AIM-260, and R-77M without any modern countermeasures? And if it is too complicated to add a temporary solution (like 50 BOL sized chaff).

[Daffan]

ok make BR go to 17 first so the game is actually playable before worry about new missiles, planes and ECM.

[black_man4187]

Why wait? A lot of planes would benefit from ECM.

[black_man4187]

@codehitman22-psn

and you complain and ask gaijin for more cm’s on the j15t which isn’t even possible cause more cm’s don’t exist

Also, the F-5C has 60 cm, but irl it didn’t get any.

[Daffan]

@black man4187@live

Why wait? A lot of planes would benefit from ECM.

Do you even read before posting

[CamVPro]

you can sparrow roll them, hardly good missiles.

Wow that’s crazy bad

[Normandy_Corsair]

F-104S.ASA is one of them lol. It had that crappy RWR in game irl because it just relied on its good ECM to deal with threats. In game, it gets nothing.

[black_man4187]

wdym?

[tokerstar]

They have a vic that competes at 14.0… the mirage with the wish.com radar? Bit of a stretch

[No_Fear1]

Good.

Maybe the chinese players should’ve let Japan get the export version of the VT4 in Thailand and these nerfs wouldn’t have happened. Maybe ;)

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/regarding-the-issue-of-thailands-vt4-tanks-and-japan/

[genises1o]

this has no correlation

[No_Fear1]

Yeah you’re probably right.

[kizvy]

@Von_Valinor

Even the Su-35 uses PESA radar

But even su-35 has aesa arrays for iff and ECM though

[kizvy]

Gaijin save Chinese top tier with sub trees please and thanks 🙏

[Von_Valinor]

@kizvy

Gaijin save Chinese top tier with sub trees please and thanks

The gaijin preferred to destroy the PL12 rather than uper the BR of the SU30MKK and MK2.
Instead of increasing the 0.4 of the BR of these 2 aircraft, gaijin preferred to destroy all aircraft that use the PL12 and all Chinese top-tier aircraft.

[Morvran]

Isnt that what the Mirage 2K was for :P

[Von_Valinor]

@No_Fear1

Good.

Maybe the chinese players should’ve let Japan get the export version of the VT4 in Thailand and these nerfs wouldn’t have happened. Maybe ;)

Although it doesn’t resonate with the post’s topic, and despite my not supporting this stance from the Chinese community.
I understand why they were so upset about that possibility.

@Von_Valinor

Israel is still a minor nation and always will be. China has the added problem that it should be a main nation, but it receives completely terrible treatment within the game.
Gaijin always had their favorite children, like Japan and Russia.
Has children that Gaijin likes a little, like England and Sweden
has children that Gaijin is indifferent to, like US
There are children that Gaijin doesn’t like, like Italy, Germany and France.
But without a doubt, Israel and China are the children that Gaijin hates

As I said previously in another post in this publication, Japan is already one of the favorite children of the gaijin.
While China has an extremely precarious treatment within the game.
I believe it greatly upset the Chinese community to give something that was uniquely theirs to a nation already favored in the game (like Japan), in addition to dealing with all the frustration of the poor, inadequate, and problematic implementation of Chinese vehicles in the game.
I don’t agree with the Chinese community’s stance regarding the VT4 case, but I understand their frustration and what triggered it.
The terrible implementation of the J10C and J15T, the absence of the J16, in addition to the awful implementation of the PL12A and this attempt at a “buff” which was a huge nerf to the PL12 that practically makes the competitive use of the missile impossible, is a great example of the injustices that the nation suffers. It’s frustrating to play with China.

[codehitman22-psn]

If you have such good stats why complain ? It doesn’t seem to be effecting them ppl
Like bad karma still make them work well, your just butt hurt your favorite nation got something nerfed, welcome to the club

[Von_Valinor]

@codehitman22-psn

Like bad karma still make them work well

Lately I see Bad Karma playing Forza Horizon 5 more than War Thunder.
He’s not even posting videos anymore.
If these vehicles are miserable for Pro players, imagine how they are for the rest of the community.
And once again, the debate is about balance.

@codehitman22-psn

If you have such good stats why complain ? It doesn’t seem to be effecting them ppl

Because it’s a serious problem with the game’s balance and design.
Yes, it is affecting peoples. Only people who aren’t affected are those who don’t play Chinese, but the problem is still there, it continues to exist.