How is the turret and hull armor going to fare would you assume?
It is hard to pinpoint exact values since T1 Armor Package is quite new. Though we can do some educated estimates thanks to ROKETSAN’s advertisement brochure. ROKETSAN’s ERA is known to be immune against much of the contemporary chemical threats including tandem-warheads.
From the tests we can infer that ROKETSAN ERA provides at least 800mm protection against tandem-warhead chemical threat, PG-7VR. This figure I believe more than 1000mm considering it is mentioned that Kornet-E is among the threats ERA can deflect. We also now that ERA provides kinetic protection but numbers are not known, it is simply stated as it increases protection against 105mm, 120mm and 125mm APFSDS rounds. Closest thing to protection value given in brochure is that it is immune against small calibers rounds up to 30mm, which probably means it won’t be triggered by rounds smaller than 30mm.
Passive/composite armor on the other hand has no proper value to work with unlike ERA. It is only mentioned as it provides protection against 105mm, 120mm and 125mm.
I would say T1 Armor Package is probably one of the better armor packages one the market, values although unknown is probably no less than what AMAP provides, potentially even higher considering it is even newer solution.
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The truth is that we still cannot say anything that is 100% confirmed about the images of the turret that were seen lately, we can assume that it represents a modernized turret for the Leopard 2 of Chile since several sources mention it, mainly from Turkey and there is also the fact that it agrees with the systems that were seen in the model presented here in Chile. In short, we will have to wait for a more official source but at least we can see that the work is progressing.
And here I am, hoping that Gaijin hears these suggestions as part of a Latam tree!
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The other day I found this quite interesting photo of a Leopard 2A4 CHL with slat armor, the photo is from last year 2023, it seems that the army is already thinking about how to deal with the suicide drones that Bolivia bought.
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Chilean M41 armed with IMI/OTO 60 HVMS
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I already have those tanks on the tree my friend
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So you mean that the appearance of the Chilean leopard will be the same as that of the Türkiye leopard NG? Turret section
I know this is specifically is about the Chilean Subtree for Israel but i’m wondering if you support the idea of having vehicles from other Latin American countries that A: have close ties to Israel and B: don’t have enough vehicles to have a subtree let alone a full tt of their own
More specifically Colombia, Honduras, maybe Guatemala and El-Salvador to further compliment the Israeli TT & in extension the Chilean subtree
I already made a suggestion similar to the one you propose, including Argentina, Brazil and Chile, which are Latin America’s military powers and have a certain relationship with Israel. If I’m not mistaken, the Central American countries that you mention do not have equipment closely linked to Israel and Their vehicles are not very advanced, the one that could be added could be Colombia since they use the Kfir C.10 which are very good and come from Israel, in the aerial tree that I am making I could add it as an event/premium
Kinda werid, a south Amercia country in a middle east country as a sub-Tree, that’s somthing I cannot understand.
Firstly, might wanna change you name (even if it’s kinda tru, cuz this ain’t 2000 anymore)
Secondly, yes it does make sense, and it’s explained in the suggestion why it makes sense. Geography doesn’t matter really at all is terms of Subtree implementations or country relations. (But in relation to geography: Looks at Indian/South African Subtrees for Britain)
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I made a whole introduction telling the story between Chile’s link with Israel, friend.
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there is also this thing, it genually keeps me up at night
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It could be the Chilean equivalent of the Magach Hydra, I wish they had left the cannon during the rocket firing tests, I don’t know if this leopard could be suggested in the forum as an unfinished prototype and therefore including the cannon, we would have to ask a moderator
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maybe a squadron vehicle, it could fit in that way maybe
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I don’t think it’d be possible to suggest it as an incomplete vehicle as, as far as I know, it was just a testbed made to determine the feasibility of mounting an MLRS on a Leopard 1V and/or in this manner. Even the FAMAE YouTube channel refers to this vehicle as a demonstrator. This would essentially make it a completed vehicle as it’s purpose was accomplished in full. Unless there’s documented proof that the final design is meant to feature a main gun, I think the current form is what you can expect to see if added.
It’s true, that’s why I didn’t want to add it, I haven’t even thought about suggesting it as a vehicle in a separate post since that vehicle was used to test the viability of using the leopard 1v chassis as a rocket launcher, it could work as a rocket launcher since it fires 40 70 mm rockets with similar characteristics to the Hydra 70, but what bothers me is the additional weight of the turret which in this case only serves to make the system rotate 360°, it could be an interesting vehicle to add but I’m not sure, I would like to know what the community thinks about him. It would serve for BR 8.0 since the rockets penetrate 290 mm but I would add it as a premium/event.
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