You wouldn’t either after seeing the takes this community has.
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The takes the Community have as a WHOLE are good.
How many people have been asking for a “Grand Operations” Game mode for YEARS?
I don’t want to have quickie 5 minute matches where one side steam rolls the other, I want matches to LAST, give me hour long grand Conquests on Huge maps with Multiple towns, airfields, and MORE to capture.
This game should be the Tank/Aircraft version of Post Scriptum and such. Not tank COD.
Yet Update after Update Gaijin is pushing this game towards being Tank COD and i HATE IT.
Give us a Game mode where we can play in either Sim or Realistic, with 64v64 (atleast) matches, On HUGE maps, with a Defense and Attack system and all that jazz.
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I want nothing more than to be able to Run point for a Allied Convoy in Normady or something in my Churchill or Black Prince.
To Fight it out and capture towns, PROPER TOWNS, And move on to the next objective, To Brawl with other heavies, to Provide support for ambushed armored columns, To assault a dug in Tank destroyer Squadron over watching a strategic objective.
Shush, dont go telling people about the MTCA man. Its my go to brain dead have fun tank… I havent grinded russia so i dont have many of them…
half the community unironically believes bmp2m is any good
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That thing has 14x gunner sight with DM33 lol it’s techically a slower Leopard 2k at 9.3, the performance of their main ammunition isn’t even that far off
It is good, but it isn’t OP.
Especially now that it no longer faces 7.7s… (it used to face the Maus lol).
TTD used to have to face Type 90s and M1A1s a long time ago.
Back then, I’d say that was a compression issue. Thankfully Gaijin finally moved up the Type 90s and M1A1s.
TTD is now 10.0 for some reason, compressing the 10.0 - 9.0 range.
All the 9.3s stated can reasonably face 10.7s, though I’d prefer if everything at 10.3+ moved up by 0.3 so that those 9.3s would no longer face 8.3s but not have to face 10.7s like the 2A4 and M1 Abrams.
Yes, also places where there needs serious decompression.
ZTZ96 has worse turret armour and hull armour. Though its reverse speed is slightly better and gets the much better dart (that you have mentioned already) and better gun handling (especially the vertical drive).
MTCA basically has better firepower than 2K.
It’s pretty much a 2K with worse mobility (still really good at 9.3) that’s placed a full BR lower for some reason.
Why it can still see tanks like T-55A and company is beyond me.
No 20mm, much worse turret mantlet armour, no fuel tanks to absorb spall, and more pronounced NATO Hump.
But 2K should be 10.3 anyways.
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It has worse turret armour? I’ve always felt it was better , I know it’s flatter though on the turret face.
It also has better gun depression
Remember the days it was 9.0 xD back when it was first added…
It also doesn’t have turret basket, unlike the 2K.
Damn I thought for a second it’s at 10.3.
Leo 2K’s turret mantlet can stop 105mm DM63 fairly consistently:
Any weaker dart and it’s fair game.
Not that I know of?
Both the OF-40 MTCA and 2K have -9.
Yeah that was crazy.
Yeah, though most 9.3s don’t have any turret basket either.
Hah if only…
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Not the 2k the ZTZ96 is what the comment you mentioned was, as I know it’s flatter than say the T72M1 hull face.
The comment I replied to of yours was talkimg about the ZTZ96 VS the T72M1
I was refering to this VS the T72M1, sorry not the leopard 2k vs the OF40.
OF 40 lacks a lot of protection compared to the Leo2k though as a lot of mobility, though has somehow a slighty better round (somehow 105mm DM33 is better than the DM23 120MM)
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It’s still something to consider when comparing it to MTCA.
Both seem undertiered though.
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Sorry. I didn’t notice… 😅
Yeah the ZTZ96’s turret armour has the same forehead weakspots as the T-72A, but only has ~380mm of KE protection for its turret cheeks, unlike the T-72A’s ~460mm:
Basically anything above DM33 / similar to it can go through with relative ease.
I’m not entirely sure about the gun depression, but I believe the ZTZ96’s turret is slanted more forwards than the T-72A.
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Yup.
105mm DM33 is better than 120mm DM23, that’s true.
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Damn man , maybe cause I do the wiggle witht he 96 it doesn’t do as much, or folks miss more.
Didn’t realise it was as drastic a difference.
I think it’s more elevated or as you say more forwards slanted giving it the illusion it’s aiming down further, though I thought the T72 has -5 gun depression , apparently it’s -6 same as the ZTZ 96.
Good to know.
For the life of me cannot figure out why.
DM23 120 IRL is a better round xD Just cause how gaijin apparently models long rong penetrators.
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